Ranged DPS dominating Slaughter Mode

[Buff_Archer]

I think I'm pretty much going to have to give up Summoner for Black Mage in Slaughter Mode because Summoner is just way too gimped vs Black Mage right now from a 'kill' perspective, and I don't see that changing. I know, I know, 'cry me a river' you might say if you're a Monk. But I'm not saying SMN doesn't have advantages over non-Cometor classes, but whereas physical DPS classes have skills that proc off low HP, and Black Mage gets instant Firestarter and Thundercloud procs, with Summoner's DOT based attacks and the basis for applying them under the effect of offensive buffs like Raging Strikes, and extending with Contagion while in their stronger form, and spreading with bane... well good luck with that once the other team's LB gauges start filling and the DOT's get removed from the party constantly. It can take like 5 or so casts to even get the three main DOT's up because of motion and autoattack interruption, and I'm not complaining about the fact we can't cast a ton of instant dot's, just saying it's too easy for the bard/healer LB to negate that for the entire party. Fester is useless without the three main DOT's up, and using Bane to spread to the party isn't that helpful if the hard/healer lb just removes them all anyway.

Also- my settings have it giving the status ailments I inflict dispay priority on target healh bar, but with the first node I usually just see two of my 3 DOT's, and recasting doesn't make a difference. Does anyone know if there's just an issue with them not displaying when too many are active, or do some truly get ignored?

[Nyalia]

Also- my settings have it giving the status ailments I inflict dispay priority on target healh bar, but with the first node I usually just see two of my 3 DOT's, and recasting doesn't make a difference. Does anyone know if there's just an issue with them not displaying when too many are active, or do some truly get ignored?

There is a hard limit to the number of DOTs that will display on a target's status bar. This maximum is checked BEFORE applying the setting that filters out the DOTs of others. So, if your DOT is applied past the display limit, you will never see it, even if you are set to only see your own effects. I find it kinda annoying, honestly - when I have that setting on as BLM, I sometimes cast Thunder on a target and the debuff icon doesn't show despite the target showing ZERO other debuffs on my screen.

I should post that to the bug forum at some point. I know exactly why it happens, but that doesn't make it any less of a gameplay-affecting bug.

[kisada]

it's a display error. when i played smn if i baned on a "2" dot node, it would spread 3.

also your reasoning is mostly why i don't play smn anymore for slaughter. i leveled blm to 50 actually just for it. i could still do really well on smn but i felt like the impact/kill ceiling was higher on blm.

if we were going back to secure or WD, though, i'd never pick smn over blm. but those days are long gone.

[zeopower6]

They should probably add a bit of piety onto all PvP fending accessories much like how dexterity was added to all pre-120 MNK gear. It only makes sense since most PvP healers use those in PvP, so why not? I mean I use the Garuda ring too but that doesn't need to be changed.

Oh, and about the MP thing... if we have any tanks or melee at all, I kiss my MP goodbye in the first part of the match, lol.

[Iagainsti]

A lot of Confirmation Bias in this thread.