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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    In my opinion the two dungeons have a huge design flaw because they are very limited.
    Gear is reskinned and exp is OK which will make those two dungeons obsolete with any type of decent content that will be released. There is nothing great about them and there has to be something for them to be used in the future.
    Yoshi should've added some truly epic gear that can stand out in those dungeons and maybe some exp quests so that the players would be inclined to do them.
    Like I said, if he releases another dungeons with good looking gear at lvl 30 and maybe 50 people will just skip the current two and grind till they get to those. If AF will be at 50 I certainly wont take a step inside the Darkhold, I rather grind.
    Another person that, according to their lodestone history, has yet to complete even the mission version of the dungeon run (no batraal win necessary). I question your integrity as well! Let it be known, if you post with a valid complaint and have tried the dungeon to no avail, I will not argue, I will empathize. However, I will continue to check lodestone accomplishments and call out each and every one of you that is hating without having experienced it for themselves. Wth? Do people read other peoples forums and regurgitate when they read as their own experience? Lastly, your flat out incorrect for stating all the new gear is just re-skinned versions of other gear, some are, but not many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    Another person that, according to their lodestone history, has yet to complete even the mission version of the dungeon run (no batraal win necessary). I question your integrity as well! Let it be known, if you post with a valid complaint and have tried the dungeon to no avail, I will not argue, I will empathize. However, I will continue to check lodestone accomplishments and call out each and every one of you that is hating without having experienced it for themselves. Wth? Do people read other peoples forums and regurgitate when they read as their own experience? Lastly, your flat out incorrect for stating all the new gear is just re-skinned versions of other gear, some are, but not many.
    Did you even read my post or did you just assume it's an invitation to white knight it?
    I wasn't talking about how fun the dungeons are or how challenging the content in them is. I was simply stating that they are poorly designed in a sense that the content in them is very shallow. Outside of few new pieces of gear that are a novelty because there isnt anything else there is nothing enduring thing about them.
    Lets take XI dynamis as an example, years since release and people still do it because some piece of gear is really good or really cool looking. Now in XIV everything is meh.
    Also, I've seen pictures of all the gear, it's all reskinn or something very close and meh. Like I said once AF comes out, people will just grind to AF like in XI because it's better exp than dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    Did you even read my post or did you just assume it's an invitation to white knight it?
    I wasn't talking about how fun the dungeons are or how challenging the content in them is. I was simply stating that they are poorly designed in a sense that the content in them is very shallow. Outside of few new pieces of gear that are a novelty because there isnt anything else there is nothing enduring thing about them.
    Lets take XI dynamis as an example, years since release and people still do it because some piece of gear is really good or really cool looking. Now in XIV everything is meh.
    Also, I've seen pictures of all the gear, it's all reskinn or something very close and meh. Like I said once AF comes out, people will just grind to AF like in XI because it's better exp than dungeons.
    if white knighting it means pointing out the fact that you haven't played it so your opinion on it's depth or quality is based soley on what you've read on other forums then I will white knight it so hard. Bottom line is your another person called out for making criticizisms without having played it. I'm going to review a resturaunt without having dined there, I think I'll write "there is nothng great about them, huge design flaws". You must be a top developer to decipher this information without experiencing it.

    Yeah, I get it, you wants ur endgames content. How many years into xi was it before dynamis was added? This was not supposed to be end game or substantial story content, just a crowd pleasing activity. I'd figure with how much you post you would have read that. I'm sorry, I rarely post but the ridiculousness of this thread, or some of it's critic/posters i should say, was something I wanted to be addressed. Again, the post was are you tired of the dungeons, not fix this dungeon, what do you think of it? This would mean to me is that the thread was meant for people actually playing the dungeons to comment on. if you came back saying you had experienced the dungeons to some degree your argument might have a sliver of merit. Go experience them and if your opinion is the same I 100% respect that, if you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, IMO... Lol...
    I await your undoubtedly defensive rebuttal. For some reason I don't think your going to admit the giant loophole in your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    if white knighting it means pointing out the fact that you haven't played it so your opinion on it's depth or quality is based soley on what you've read on other forums then I will white knight it so hard. Bottom line is your another person called out for making criticizisms without having played it. I'm going to review a resturaunt without having dined there, I think I'll write "there is nothng great about them, huge design flaws". You must be a top developer to decipher this information without experiencing it.

    Yeah, I get it, you wants ur endgames content. How many years into xi was it before dynamis was added? This was not supposed to be end game or substantial story content, just a crowd pleasing activity. I'd figure with how much you post you would have read that. I'm sorry, I rarely post but the ridiculousness of this thread, or some of it's critic/posters i should say, was something I wanted to be addressed. Again, the post was are you tired of the dungeons, not fix this dungeon, what do you think of it? This would mean to me is that the thread was meant for people actually playing the dungeons to comment on. if you came back saying you had experienced the dungeons to some degree your argument might have a sliver of merit. Go experience them and if your opinion is the same I 100% respect that, if you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, IMO... Lol...
    I await your undoubtedly defensive rebuttal. For some reason I don't think your going to admit the giant loophole in your argument.

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    You fail at analogies. Yes I wouldn't review a restaurant without trying it. But I can say I wont try this dish at a restaurant because I dont think it's cooked properly and I know I wont enjoy it.
    Oh and dont give me "how many years before dynamis was added?" that excuse was OK in 2002. Another STFU and wait for next patch huh. Smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    You fail at analogies. Yes I wouldn't review a restaurant without trying it. But I can say I wont try this dish at a restaurant because I dont think it's cooked properly and I know I wont enjoy it.
    Oh and dont give me "how many years before dynamis was added?" that excuse was OK in 2002. Another STFU and wait for next patch huh. Smart.
    No, his analogy was spot on. You still can't comment on the meals without having eaten there. You! Are! Wrong! Thanks for playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterytaru View Post
    No, his analogy was spot on. You still can't comment on the meals without having eaten there. You! Are! Wrong! Thanks for playing.
    Not if the meals are tainted by salmonella. You can eat there and find it good, then get sick afterwards. That's such an awesome metaphor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    You fail at analogies. Yes I wouldn't review a restaurant without trying it. But I can say I wont try this dish at a restaurant because I dont think it's cooked properly and I know I wont enjoy it.
    Oh and dont give me "how many years before dynamis was added?" that excuse was OK in 2002. Another STFU and wait for next patch huh. Smart.
    No one said stfu and wait for the next patch. I did however point out your opinion of the dungeon design was baseless given the fact that you haven't played it. I think I 've proved my point and will let the people decide. Oh, btw - you haven't seen the food cus you haven't stepped foot in the resteruant. I win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    No one said stfu and wait for the next patch. I did however point out your opinion of the dungeon design was baseless given the fact that you haven't played it. I think I 've proved my point and will let the people decide. Oh, btw - you haven't seen the food cus you haven't stepped foot in the resteruant. I win!
    If the food is tainted with Salmonella, you can come eat it, find it good for a little bit, then get really sick later. That is how the reaction of I'd like to say 450k people that quit, maybe more.

    Let me paint a picture for you: Hey! 1.18 is here! Nice! Awesome! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG DUNGEONS! DUNGEONS! DUNGEONS! All right lets do this thing! Why? Why are we running? Can you guys please stop and kill these things? No! STFU and just run straight to the boss.

    Then later in the day, "Hey guys, we've been doing this over a dozen times already wanna grind? No! We need to farm this over and over and over again. Anyone in linkshell wanna do leves? Anyone? Anyone? *crickets* *crickets* I guess I'll just craft alone. Anyone wanna kill some NMs? No? /sigh. I guess, I'll just do dungeon until I can't feel anymore. *Takes off clothes, puts them in the trashcan, burns them, then jumps in the shower, and cries out loud like a rape victim*
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