Ironworks Fishing Rod

[Duuude007]

This is about Ironworks, a very difficult achievement item, no longer having any relevant use, to include glamour.

Very? No, not at all, really. At least not anymore, which is MY point in past posts- inevitable easing of content, and eventual obsolescence. Just RNG at this point. No relevant use? thats up to the player. You don't speak for everybody, nor should you.

The Ironworks Rod should be altered in some way to restore prestige.

Because it used to be difficult to earn, and now is easy to earn? The same could be said about Luminary. It won't be altered to be more potent, as its an achievement reward. Something people will eventually get just by grinding the content.

[liev]

Very? No, not at all, really. At least not anymore, which is MY point in past posts- inevitable easing of content, and eventual obsolescence. Just RNG at this point. No relevant use? thats up to the player. You don't speak for everybody, nor should you.

Whoosh.

Because it used to be difficult to earn, and now is easy to earn? The same could be said about Luminary. It won't be altered to be more potent, as its an achievement reward. Something people will eventually get just by grinding the content.

Whoosh. No it has nothing to do with eased difficulty. Read the OP.
Luminary - see page one. It's useful as a glamour item. Ironworks is not.

[liev]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2764078

Maybe you should re-read this a couple times.

[Duuude007]

No it has nothing to do with eased difficulty. Read the OP.

It has plenty to do with it, regardless of whether you decide to ignore it. Re: reality.

Point, counterpoint. Just because you disagree with our counterpoints does not mean that they should not be considered.

[liev]

It has plenty to do with it, regardless of whether you decide to ignore it. Re: reality.

Point, counterpoint. Just because you disagree with our counterpoints does not mean that they should not be considered.

No it doesn't....because the post at no point mentions that anything should be changed because of eased difficulty. Re: reality. Re: learn to read. Re: See the post at the top of page 5. Every valid argument has been considered.

[Duuude007]

No it doesn't....because the post at no point mentions that anything should be changed because of eased difficulty. Re: reality. Re: learn to read. Re: See the post at the top of page 5. Every valid argument has considered.

This is your point, paraphrasing, that "because you didn't mention it, it shouldn't be relevant to the discussion."

Ignoring these counterpoints as invalid doesn't help your argument.

Also, keep it classy about accusing 'poor reading competence'. I'm sure that will make your posts influential.

[liev]

This is your point, paraphrasing, that "because you didn't mention it, it shouldn't be relevant to the discussion."

Ignoring these counterpoints as invalid doesn't help your argument.

Also, keep it classy about accusing 'poor reading competence'. I'm sure that will make your posts influential.

It's not a counterpoint. It's an argument you're trying to introduce into my already established argument. The argument has never never never been about eased difficulty.

But if you REALLY want to have it included:

The Ironworks Rod is easier to get now.
∴ wait i'm not mad about this what does this have to do with the OP?

[Duuude007]

It's not a counterpoint. It's an argument you're trying to introduce into my already established argument. The argument has never never never been about eased difficulty.

That was only half the argument.

Again.

Everything inevitably falls into obselescence. your rod is not special anymore. 2.5 was a catch up patch for every doh and dol class, which is why Artisan sets are now a huge handout making crafted artisans not-so special. and crummy glamours too, for that matter.

Your thing? Not really a thing.