3rd Retainer by Default, please?

[Nyalia]

I cant even fathom how you people can use so much space.

Most of it is glamour, or leveling equips for new jobs when they're released. Consider the pre-50 unique dungeon gear (some untradeable, some not): there are 3-4 sets at each tier (tank, physical DPS, healer/caster, and then sometimes DRG gets their own set). There's a tier at level 15 (acolyte, foestriker, plundered [extra versions of plundered for some slots]), level 20 ([not full sets]), level 24 ([not full sets]), level 32 (battlemage, infantry, cavalry), level 38 ([not full sets]), and level 44 (buccaneer, templar, harlequin, and sentinel). There are also dungeon sets at i55, i60, i70, i80, i100, and the higher you get, the more these are specific to a smaller set of classes so you get more of them. Then there's the philo, myth, soldiery, and poetics sets, the LotA, ST, and WoD sets, the First, Second, and Final Coil sets, and then all the highly expensive glamour items.

If you're someone who likes to leave options open for glamour, you have to store something like 3 types * 5 slots * 21 tiers = 315 items. And that's assuming there's only three sets per tier (at the higher tiers, there are six (fending, healing, casting, maiming, striking, aiming), at the highest, there are seven (fending, healing, casting, maiming, striking, ranging, scouting), and for Myth, there are ten). This ignores the crafted sets, even though the high end sets (i70, i90, i110) are not ones where you'd just make an item for glamour and then throw it away because you can get a new one due to their priciness. Oh, and I didn't include the PvP gear where, for the i100 and i110 items, there are 10 sets of each (plus some of the i90 gear has a pretty unique look, iirc). It's also assuming you only care about the five primary glamour slots - it doubles if you add in accessories/belts, and skyrockets if you include weapons.

To completionists who like to have access to one of everything (at least for something like glamour), it's not unreasonable to try to get the whole set for most of these, especially the unique endgame sets like the ST and Second Coil sets. Because of class restrictions on the glamour system, it's often not enough to have one item with a given look - even if two classes have gear that looks the same except for a recolor, due to the class restrictions, you need to keep both.

So, ignoring crafting mats, atma, dyes, materia, demimateria, gardening items, food, choco feed, unused furniture, potions, unarmoireable seasonal/achievement items, fireworks, maps, and wedding invitations, it's definitely possible to run out of your 450 inventory slots (and 300 armory chest slots, which need to include stuff like crafting/gathering gear and your actively used gear for each class) just by keeping items for glamour.

[Noxifer]

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I wish we could click the Like button more than once D: I'd Like this ten times if I could.

I have one retainer filled to the brim with level 50 gear only, and that's with just one page worth of weapons (shared between all jobs).
I have one that's almost filled with materia/demimateria only. (Three pages with some random culinarian mats, high-star crafting mats and glamour prisms from when I couldn't make them myself.)
One with pre-50 gear and two pages of crafting mats. Both for glamour and good pink gear for the classes I'm still levelling. Have had to throw some things away already >.< (Read: throw at my GC) And I've sold off a lot of my crafting mats, too, once the gear part of her inventory grew beyond the three pages I'd initially allotted to it.
The fourth retainer holds furniture, fireworks, dyes and unique items like phantasia potions, behemoth horns and atmas. [Edit: Plus some i90 accessories waiting for my desynth skill to get that high...]

And my personal inventory hovers between 80/100 and 98/100, and my armoury is rarely below 22/25 on each type (weapons and rings are always at 25/25, with spare zeniths and each job using two rings; left-side equipment's not far behind).

It's interesting that some people seem to excuse the lack of mule-enabling with the "you're meant to do everything with one character" reasoning, while at the same time seemingly not considering that if you're meant to do all classes with one character, you should have more storage space to help you with that compared to a character in a game where you're locked into one class and can at most do two or three crafting classes (which often don't require separate gear). Not less (per class).

[BlaiseArath]

Postie

Excellent explanation, and that I will say with absolute sincerity. However, now that I've got my actual sincerity out of the way.. I will chalk it up to an almost serial killer level of illogical hording. Stawp.

Now, this is separate from my response above to you and more toward the solution asked for in this thread... so for this particular solution. I don't think we should increase inventory space, or in this case open a new retainer, specifically for this type of problem as it is very short sighted solution... as by that logic in a couple years, even if adjusting inventory, they'll be demanding over 9,000 inventory spaces for their Item level 50, 60, 70, 80 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, 180, 190, 200, 210, 220, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270, 280, 290, etc etc gear... Do you not see the problem with i'm getting at here? A new retainer will not solve this issue for more than a couple patches, and then people will want a 4th, and a 5th, and a 6th, etc etc. Because as you described, their compulsary need to horde anything and everything will not cease, and in the end, they'll just shovel everything they can into their retainer... Most of it being gear that will never see use glamour or otherwise.

Instead of adding a new retainer or increasing inventory which will be but a bandaid on a bullet wound , I think we should look at the biggest offender to this inventory issue, Glamour. The best solution would be to add a "Glamour storage" type system, where once obtained, you can bind it/whatever it to save that Glamour date in glamour storage for use any time in the future without the physical item being needed. Think GW2. It has been suggested many times, and I think that would be a more perminent solution, rather than this ... short sighted solution to the issue, and I really hope SE sees that.

I know development time is probably tight but this is an issue that will plague this game for its entire lifespawn with the current glamour system, a new one needs to be made.

for the i100 and i110 items

Aren't they the same set except one is dyable? I thought they were... i know the weapons are just glowy versions.

crafting mats, atma, dyes, materia, demimateria, gardening items, food, choco feed, unused furniture, potions, unarmoireable seasonal/achievement items, fireworks, maps, and wedding invitations,

I get most of these, but Maps and Wedding invitations? Those shouldn't grace your inventory for very long at all... Also maybe is just uncommon, but don't people keep their Choco-feed an Gardening stuff in FC chests if available? I know not everyone has a FC house, and that Gardening suff can be used in personal housing...