Stoneskin the new cure?

[Eloah]

I rarely use stoneskin, though I do main as a Scholar. But when I did play as a White Mage I feel I was a bit too trigger happy with it and always tried to keep it up on every player; I was new, lol. But I will say I have noticed this as an increasing trend. I guess it's the WHM equivelant to Galvenize, and preventing overhealing, you just notice it more because it isn't connected to a heal like Adlo or Succor.

[Werhusky]

I rarely use stoneskin, though I do main as a Scholar. But when I did play as a White Mage I feel I was a bit too trigger happy with it and always tried to keep it up on every player; I was new, lol. But I will say I have noticed this as an increasing trend. I guess it's the WHM equivelant to Galvenize, and preventing overhealing, you just notice it more because it isn't connected to a heal like Adlo or Succor.

Yeah you see stoneskin more but gotta recommend to also try sch stoneskins.... I actually discovered the sch stoneskinning as I has a not that good whm on my side while progressing T6-9 prenerfs and needed the adlo stoneskin combo pretty often... its a MP burn but u just gotta love it <3

[KisaiTenshi]

I throw stoneskin out there on myself or the another healer if I know the boss's damage pattern will hit everyone heavily. It does not save MP, it saves having to immediately heal yourself instead of another party member.

It's almost entirely useless to cast stoneskin on a tank after the opening pull.

[Sebazy]

It's almost entirely useless to cast stoneskin on a tank after the opening pull.

Depends on the content, outside of the current endgame raid (Aka FCOB right now), I'd agree, very little outside of Cloud plus zero-form debuff stacks hits a decently geared tank hard enough to warrant it.

However, you'll be using Stoneskin on tanks quite a lot whilst progressing through FCOB particularly whilst you are gearing up.

T10 - Scripted Crit Rips in P1/2
T11 - One of my group single tanks the cleaves, so I stoneskin liberally during phases 2 and 4 to take a bit of the edge off it.
T12 - Revelation and P2 Flames handover
T13 - Phase 2 flatten+breath and before Ank Morn

These spring straight to mind, probably more as well =(

[VanilleFang]

It's almost entirely useless to cast stoneskin on a tank after the opening pull.

That's completely false. I just did a speedrun through Amdapor HM last night where I could constantly spam Holy/other DPS by mostly just relying on Regen and SS on the tank.

[Zedd702]

That's completely false. I just did a speedrun through Amdapor HM last night where I could constantly spam Holy/other DPS by mostly just relying on Regen and SS on the tank.

I use stoneskin in this method as well. SS, DS Medica II + Regen (on tank only) then Swiftcast HOLY dem to def...

[mp-please]

That's completely false. I just did a speedrun through Amdapor HM last night where I could constantly spam Holy/other DPS by mostly just relying on Regen and SS on the tank.

The issue about that is that holy stuns all targets twice, which lets regen do what it does best making a 2nd stoneskin cast completely optional. Plus on the time you spend casting that ss you can spend casting holy, same thing applies if swiftcast is used (holy>swift>holy) which will lead to 3 holy for 2 stuns rather than 2 holy for 2 stuns.
I also like to think if mobs die faster tank will also take less dmg so dps > mitigation on crowd pulls.

[VanilleFang]

The issue about that is that holy stuns all targets twice, which lets regen do what it does best making a 2nd stoneskin cast completely optional. Plus on the time you spend casting that ss you can spend casting holy, same thing applies if swiftcast is used (holy>swift>holy) which will lead to 3 holy for 2 stuns rather than 2 holy for 2 stuns.
I also like to think if mobs die faster tank will also take less dmg so dps > mitigation on crowd pulls.

I'm not just saying I was using it for the stun. I was spamming Holy for the dps. The tank was very competent, so they avoided AoEs like a beast a knew when to use Cooldowns. CS > SS > Divine Seal > Regen > CS > DPS Spam > SS > DPS Spam > CS > SS > Regen.... That's what I was doing for a large portion of the time. I would occasionally have to pop a Bene or a Cure II but other than that it was Regen + SS.

[mp-please]

I'm not just saying I was using it for the stun. I was spamming Holy for the dps. The tank was very competent, so they avoided AoEs like a beast a knew when to use Cooldowns. CS > SS > Divine Seal > Regen > CS > DPS Spam > SS > DPS Spam > CS > SS > Regen.... That's what I was doing for a large portion of the time. I would occasionally have to pop a Bene or a Cure II but other than that it was Regen + SS.

I didn't said you were, what i said is that when mobs are stunned regen will heal the tank by quite heavy amounts, so putting that extra stoneskin is unnecessary.