Please Remove Gear Restrictions (Rank)

[DividedSky]

Sorry i think i mis read.... you are 100% against gear progression? I guess it doesn't bother me. I like the idea of being OP with good gear.

[Niroken]

Its not designed to be even and competitive like you are describing.

I personally liked the old moral system. I dunno I don't see the problem with gear making you better at the game unless you want the game to BC an online sport which I do NOT want for ffxiv.

It doesn't have to be an online sport, very few games put the time and effort to become that and I think FFXIV going down that route would pull too much resources away from what the game really is which is a PvE game. What I expect from PvP is to be a fair and inviting experience to encourage a large PvP population. How many people would actually continue to PvP after getting hit in the head with a shovel as soon as they enter the door? It sours their experience and you lose potential players because some people want to be on top of a very small hill.

[DividedSky]

I see your point but now I don't understand what you are asking for. Edit: however right now gear "progression" has a minimal impact on gameplay which is what it sounds like you agree with. It sounds like you just want the glamor / prestige of awesome looking gear for less effort? You consider the grind useless but you don't want gear progression? So you want free/easy glams? I this really what this post is about?

[Duuude007]

THANK YOU Niro and Sky. I really like pvp and I really like FF so I'm going to hold out hope until 3.0 releases. If nothing major changes after that I wont be returning. Sky, I've been grinding FLs 24/7 since I hit 50 and I'm only rank 27 and havent gotten any gear in a long time. Even if the requirements was slightly lowered so I received one piece every 2 or so levels I would be content but there's a huge grind gap between the ilvl90 and ilvl100 gear. I know this isn't my imagination because Yoshi himself has acknowledged the grind problem in this game and has said 3.0 will have "shortcuts" to lower time. I would just like some semblance of progress no matter how slight.

You haven't slept for HOW long?

[Niroken]

I see your point but now I don't understand what you are asking for. It sounds like you just want the glamor / prestige of awesome looking gear for less effort?

You can still tie it to rank, just remove the advantages in Wolves Den, basically remove Morale. Another way is you could instead make it very expensive and allow you to purchase any piece at any rank, if you want the full amount of gear you still need the time investment for the full set. It gives more motivation to continue if you know your next piece is only x number of matches away and might even make a longer grind if you want sets for all your classes. Keep increasing rank every patch or two with new titles, glamour pieces, mounts, minions, etc, hell maybe even make icons beside your name for each rank or every 5 ranks to visibly show how progressed you are in experience while in PvP (I've seen that alone be motivation enough for some people to reach the top). As long as it doesn't effect gameplay I could care less, more rewards won't increase the population that much but you get your shiny stuff.

[DividedSky]

Why change something that isn't broken? You say it doesn't matter if it takes the same amount of time to get the gear (by making gear more expensive) but you want It to change? Wtf? You aren't making any reasonable sense at this point. You are basically asking for a change in the system for the sake of a change. Either that or you dont want to admit you really are just asking for glamors with less effort.

We already established that moral has very very little effect on performance in PvP and you can get similar gear through pve. I use an i90 pave head on my ninja...rank 45 full i110 PvP set by I don't use the full set BC in a few cases its not the best for my build.

In other cases tho PvP gear is the best but its completely dependant on circumstance but the gpvp gear is not absolute so it shouldn't matter. BTW. Moral barely works at all in front lines.go read about how i80 sync works in the other thread on this forum.

[Niroken]

Why change something that isn't broken? You say it doesn't matter if it takes the same amount of time to get the gear (by making gear more expensive) but you want It to change? Wtf? You aren't making any reasonable sense at this point. You are basically asking for a change in the system for the sake of a change. Either that or you dont want to admit you really are just asking for glamors with less effort.

How is getting a pieces of gear on the way to level 40 rather then grinding to 32+ to be able to get any the same thing. If a full set takes 200+ matches then why does rank need to be involved. Say it takes 300 matches to get to level 40 and you say you get 500 Wolf Marks per match for a total of 150000 wolf marks, you need to go from 1-32 to be able to start getting any of the animal gear. Yet if 6 pieces of gear cost 25,000 wolf marks you can get one piece of gear every 50 matches. So around Rank 6 you could get one piece and from Rank 40 you've collected the set (this figuring is if 7 or so matches equal a level which generally isn't the case). You could get your animal gear earlier but your not getting the set until you put in the time besides going 32 levels to start. It gives you more options on how you want to collect your gear.

We already established that moral has very very little effect on performance in PvP and you can get similar gear through pve. I use an i90 pave head on my ninja...rank 45 full i110 PvP set by I don't use the full set BC in a few cases its not the best for my build.

In other cases tho PvP gear is the best but its completely dependant on circumstance but the gpvp gear is not absolute so it shouldn't matter. BTW. Moral barely works at all in front lines.go read about how i80 sync works in the other thread on this forum.

When I talk about PvP gear I don't mention Frontline for a reason. Frontline is doing much better the Wolves Den right now and most of the tweaking needed in Frontlines is class based (Secure and Slaughter favor different classes more then they should). Wolves Den is what is concerning, it's supposed to be the PvP mode for serious PvP. Having gear effect performance in serious PvP is a joke, hopefully over time it will get sorted out.

[DividedSky]

I'm done here. Good luck. Its just fine how it is and they don't need to make it easier. I bet that if each prices was 25-30k you would be complaining too. You just want the gear for less work.


Try unlocking i80 sync den if you are so concerned about den being fair. You probably don't even realize that exists. But just FYI the fact that it does exist is what fragmented 50s wolves den and KILLED the den. No one does den anymore unless you pre make teams.

[morerancor]

Shortcut = added xp to df. removing the limit would be like handing out free deadwyrm gear, not gonna happen.

[Kiara1]

Why do you guys wanna change something that's fine.
Anything in this game is super eaasy to obtain, coil gear included if you have a good static. But the pvp gear is the only gear that you actually have to work for.
If you don't wanna put in the time then don't do it but then you don't get your gear. It's simple as that.

I am so annoyed with this generation of gamers "I want this and I want it now, I don't wanna do anything to get it"

I remember in wow vanilla where you farmed mobs for hours who would give you 3 reputation points each, and you needed like 21000 of those points. And no one complained, people just did it.