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    AntiSocialPanda's Avatar
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    Tessa Gray
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    For the love of God why is everyone here so brain dead ...
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    Sneak Ers
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Dude....are you serious? Its NOT that hard to get rank 45. PvP gear does help you twink in front lines. It is not useless unless you have full i120+ gear with the desired off stats which in most cases the pve gear has accuracy which is useless. Right now pvp 110 gear is bis in almost all cases for frontline gear. And there is clear PvP progression especially if you just hit 50 and don't have any decent pve gear yet. Not to mention ranking up your skills helps tremendously.
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 90
    FFXIV lacks the substance and depth for PvP to get by on it's own so they invented a useless grind for gear progression to try to keep people playing it's PvP via carrot and stick. Some people are going to resist any change as they already put in time to get their flashy gear, before it gave them an big advantage in Wolves Den and since a lot more people are playing Frontlines for fun and fairness the unique look is pretty much all they have left. As I recall the reason for the PvE styled gear was an attempt to entice PvE players to play more PvP.

    Your best bet is to come up with a solution that has that in mind but would change it to better PvP as a whole. I can't see SE doing major revamps, generally when we get a new system like hunts or synthesis we are pretty much stuck with it.
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    THANK YOU Niro and Sky. I really like pvp and I really like FF so I'm going to hold out hope until 3.0 releases. If nothing major changes after that I wont be returning. Sky, I've been grinding FLs 24/7 since I hit 50 and I'm only rank 27 and havent gotten any gear in a long time. Even if the requirements was slightly lowered so I received one piece every 2 or so levels I would be content but there's a huge grind gap between the ilvl90 and ilvl100 gear. I know this isn't my imagination because Yoshi himself has acknowledged the grind problem in this game and has said 3.0 will have "shortcuts" to lower time. I would just like some semblance of progress no matter how slight.
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    THANK YOU Niro and Sky. I really like pvp and I really like FF so I'm going to hold out hope until 3.0 releases. If nothing major changes after that I wont be returning. Sky, I've been grinding FLs 24/7 since I hit 50 and I'm only rank 27 and havent gotten any gear in a long time. Even if the requirements was slightly lowered so I received one piece every 2 or so levels I would be content but there's a huge grind gap between the ilvl90 and ilvl100 gear. I know this isn't my imagination because Yoshi himself has acknowledged the grind problem in this game and has said 3.0 will have "shortcuts" to lower time. I would just like some semblance of progress no matter how slight.
    You haven't slept for HOW long?
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    Tessa Gray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    You haven't slept for HOW long?
    A couple weeks? Lol. But I'm snowed in so I dont have class or anything so eh.
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    Gwen Dolyn
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    I've been grinding FLs 24/7 since I hit 50 and I'm only rank 27 and havent gotten any gear in a long time.
    I got to rank 25 in, uh, three days.
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 50
    You have skill progression every 4 ranks you get a skill upgrade. You can also work on building a PvP set with roughly 360ish accuracy and the off stats of your choice. That's what I worked on and it felt like progress. I got most of the gear from PvP and a few pieces from pve with tombs. My ninja is super twinked and I can three shot casters when I pop CDs. Progress is in the eyes of the beholder.
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    Tessa Gray
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    Quote Originally Posted by DividedSky View Post
    You have skill progression every 4 ranks you get a skill upgrade. You can also work on building a PvP set with roughly 360ish accuracy and the off stats of your choice. That's what I worked on and it felt like progress. I got most of the gear from PvP and a few pieces from pve with tombs. My ninja is super twinked and I can three shot casters when I pop CDs. Progress is in the eyes of the beholder.
    True. I've already upgraded the essential skills though. So now I'm just dumping points into Vitality, Mind, and Piety at the moment.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Pvp gear was tailored for WD and not FL.
    Since no one really does WD anymore, ppl who worked hard for their gear can only cherish the vanity gear they have left. It used to make u stand out in WD but now ur just some random guy in FL.
    Also the fact that this game pvp is pretty difficult to access on a regular basis as to oppose other games i guess. So all the difficulty in leveling up is technically just getting into matches rather than WD fast qeues but required a LOT of wins = required x10 amount of skill than Fl slaughter.
    FL secure had a hype moment so everyone bum rushed in those months to catch up due to the good exp and marks it gave.

    The grind is real but the victories from skill is not, its just exploit anything to win till Se addresses it.
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