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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I was voicing my opinion, not everything that group does is constructive in my opinion, though it may be constructive as far as they are concerned.
    I personally like Anonymous. They are very reactive to situations that happen all over the globe, and usually have a pretty good reason for the actions that they take. I can definitely understand a difference in opinion. Some people like Batman, some people hate vigilante justice. =]
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    The main reasons that small groups of DDoSers like Lizard Squad are hard to actually bring in and put in jail are 1) because a lot of them aren't actually US citizens and 2) most of the techniques one would have to use to get evidence on them is, if not illegal, not permissible in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    The main reasons that small groups of DDoSers like Lizard Squad are hard to actually bring in and put in jail are 1) because a lot of them aren't actually US citizens and 2) most of the techniques one would have to use to get evidence on them is, if not illegal, not permissible in court.

    Extradition orders can be a real nightmare, especially when the order basically reads "We want this guy because he probably maybe hax0red our box0rz."
    The law really hasn't caught up to new technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brody138 View Post
    I personally like Anonymous. They are very reactive to situations that happen all over the globe, and usually have a pretty good reason for the actions that they take. I can definitely understand a difference in opinion. Some people like Batman, some people hate vigilante justice. =]
    This. I have always loved and supported Anonymous in their efforts. If they hack something, there is a serious reason behind it - a very legitimate and supportable reason.

    As for the OP of this post - PSN was most likely down for maintenance. If anyone hacked them, it wasn't this "Lizard Squad". I started researching this supposed "Lizard Squad" - they never hacked anything - ever. It was always someone else and LS took the credit. From what I am understanding, the best hacking LS could do is probably guessing the password to try to disable the net-nanny that mommy and daddy put on the computer to try to keep them from looking at porn.

    Most legitimate hack groups will actually post BEFORE they do something - like a challenge. In short it translates to "Guess what, you pissed us off and here's what we are going to do to you" However there are other legitimate groups that do not announce before-hand. They prefer the sneak attack, but when THOSE groups attack, they leave a signature of some sort - like a placeholder index.html with their logo or something.

    A DDoS attack is not considered hacking. It's a form of digital harassment, yes, but in the eyes of any true hacker, unless you are actually physically penetrating and manipulating files in a place you shouldn;t be able to access, you aren;t hacking - you're just being annoying. DDoS is just annoying, and it doesn't prove anything. Say PSN really was attacked with DDoS . . . . so what? You annoyed a few gamers trying to log onto their games, but your real target - the company you are attacking - they don;t take the heat, really. They can post any story they want - "Sorry we had emergency maintenance to fix a bug . . . " However, actually HACK that server, bring it down on your own, and leave a message in place of their web site that embarrasses the company completely - THAT sends a message.

    Go ahead and DDoS a game I play - you won't end my life - you'll just divert me to do something else I enjoy for a bit - maybe go for a drive to the mountains, do some photography, go to the nightclub . . . maybe even hang out with my sweetie (Just kidding if you are reading this, love). With DDoS you never delivered a message to me and you didn't accomplish anything but change the order of my day somewhat, and I'll probably assume it's just server maintenance.
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    Honestly, when it comes to foreign cyber-nuisances (because these people are not hackers), the best we can hope for is bored NSA techies to mess with them on their slow days.

    Though if Lizard Squad tries anymore bomb threats, things are liable to get way, way more real for them.
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    Hey don't "name and shame" the lizzard squad. We should all just deal with it, because they got the right to troll for lulz while screwing everyone over.
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    .........What?!
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    No one hacked anything. DDOS is not hacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.
    Best idea thus far.
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