Wolves den needs more insentive

[Ransu]

I'm not a fan of frontlines. I've never really been a fan of the large scale battles like that. Great for those that like it, but I prefer something more along the lines of 8v8 and 4v4. FFXIV offers a 4v4 but it seems no one queues for it. I try to play it and I never get a pop. Longest I've sat in a queue was 2 hours. Frontlines, especially the roulette one, seems to pop quickly, rarely wait more than 10 minutes which I would assume is because of the soldiery and poetics reward. I get that 4v4 are shorter matches, but I really think they should get similar rewards to get more people to want to queue for it.

As it stands right now I may just not bother with pvp at all since I don't care for frontlines, so it would be nice if SE did something to get the wolves den queue to pop.

[SongJoohee]

Yes please I really miss my 4v4 Deathmatches, 100x more fun

[Deelo]

Just here for the misspelling.

[Jamez82]

every time I queue for Frontlines i wait 50-60 min. O.o

[Yumi_umi]

Ppl got sick of 4v4 and they wanted more ppl and a bigger playfield so it wouldn't be that cluster zerg healer/ caster 1st 4v4 that we all know and love/ hate. Now that we got these things ppl want 4v4 again. which one is it guys?
I always liked WD but kinda gave up in progressing as ppl wintraded ( remember when it was the hot thing to do to get to 30? ) and gear fluctuated. So i'm down for reviving WD but i'm pretty sure ppl just gonna ask for more FL once they update the 4v4.

[Brianmj]

Do we really want Square incentivizing people into PvP? Let think about this for a bit. Take a look at the people that do relic. Square is leading them around like players lead the chocobo PS4 exclusive mount. The reward requires jumping through many ridiculous hoops. Many of them are miserable. They're running the same dungeon 20, 30, or even 40 times. They're sick of it; they're sick of doing content they have no interest in. And with that, they bring shitty attitudes. A lot of people do not like PvP. Do you really want these people in a PvP zone?

[kpxmanifesto]

Do we really want Square incentivizing people into PvP? Let think about this for a bit. Take a look at the people that do relic. Square is leading them around like players lead the chocobo PS4 exclusive mount. The reward requires jumping through many ridiculous hoops. Many of them are miserable. They're running the same dungeon 20, 30, or even 40 times. They're sick of it; they're sick of doing content they have no interest in. And with that, they bring shitty attitudes. A lot of people do not like PvP. Do you really want these people in a PvP zone?

This entire post doesn't make sense to me. If someone doesn't like pvp they just wont do it. Whats forcing them to pvp?

[Brianmj]

This entire post doesn't make sense to me. If someone doesn't like pvp they just wont do it. Whats forcing them to pvp?

Because they're goaded into it. Hunts people are sick of hunts and want to add Allied Seals as a reward to Frontlines.

[kpxmanifesto]

Because they're goaded into it. Hunts people are sick of hunts and want to add Allied Seals as a reward to Frontlines.

Good. Bring on the people with shitty attitude. It will improve queue times.

[Brianmj]

Good. Bring on the people with shitty attitude. It will improve queue times.

It'll make for a shitty experience. It may not be so noticeable in Slaughter, but in 24 player only Secure and 4x4 Wolves' Den, it'll be a problem.