Why was the game built around guildleves?

[Zenaku]

Leves was build as a way for players who don't have much time to play.

See that Yoshi-P would be making a system for Hardcore players which be 8player base dungeons if you not read the interview.

8players: would need to plan out and a good class set to win and times to do.
4players: Don't need much planing it's a go in fight get out type of deal. healer,dps,dps,dps would do in this type of event.

It's seem Yoshi-P have a lot for hardcore and casual play style something tanaka could not do. But at least he still working on ffxiv with Yoshi-P.

So please i know it hard for some ppl to read interview but try and look for them or ask someone if they know before making a topic. Guildleves in few months no one be doing then 2-3years it just be there if you want like ffxi:Garrison

[Alcide]

Oh and guys, you said yourself the whole game is about guildleves, story, maps, combat, gathering, craft, even the cinematic, everything. It's a great concept used in an awful way, but it's still great and they based the game on that, they can't redo EVERYTHING. And again, if you don't like the core of a game noone is forcing you to play ^^'

But most of all, give up on whining about guildleves, coz Yoshida already stated he loves this concept.
1-0 for real players o/

[Zenaku]

Btw FFXIV was a game that got hurry up due to CEO wanting a 2010 release and maybe also the stockholders wanting there $ now then waiting. Tanaka would have made this game very good top of that most of everything coming up was maybe his plans for the start just never had time. it going to take few months before we see Yoshi-P and then still tanaka would be in the team helping out and giving out idea.

But Yoshi-P is doing a great job but let's see what he can really do when he on his on in few years and tanaka leaves ffxiv and go do something else. i mean no disrespect to yoshi-p it's going to take time before i like him more so far i think he been a great help too ffxiv let's see what he have for hardcore players.

[Nephera]

There's the Garlean empire but they're probably off doing leves and too busy to bother us.

I laughed pretty hard

[Rowyne]

8players: would need to plan out and a good class set to win and times to do.
4players: Don't need much planing it's a go in fight get out type of deal. healer,dps,dps,dps would do in this type of event.

I was thinking 4-mans would be more like Tank, Healer, 2 DPS

[Rowyne]

But most of all, give up on whining about guildleves, coz Yoshida already stated he loves this concept.

I'm not suggesting it get scrapped, but I don't think it should be the backbone of the game. I'd like to see other things take more of a central focus. And not just for the repetitive aspect. But accepting assignments like some kind of mercenary requisitioned by people you'll never meet doesn't make for a very engaging story.

And we play FF because of the epic story, right?

I think the 'Side'quests need to be more robust, for this reason (which is another reason I'm not crazy about calling them sidequests, it only reinforces the idea that they're trivial).

[Alcide]

I'm not suggesting it get scrapped, but I don't think it should be the backbone of the game. I'd like to see other things take more of a central focus. And not just for the repetitive aspect. But accepting assignments like some kind of mercenary requisitioned by people you'll never meet doesn't make for a very engaging story.

And we play FF because of the epic story, right?

I think the 'Side'quests need to be more robust, for this reason (which is another reason I'm not crazy about calling them sidequests, it only reinforces the idea that they're trivial).

I agree 100% right now there are a few things like that in class/main scenario quests that gives you that but they aren't enough and definitely they aren't challenging.

But there are still ppl who wants to get rid of the whole guildleve system as well

[Nephera]

Yeah guildleves are nice but they're really just comparable to daily quests in any other mmo. Which is uh... really not what we should be using as a foundation.


At least not with a limit of eight at a time.

[Xatsh]

My guess is Leves where seen as the perfect casual group event.

You can solo them if you have less then an hour.
You can use the party search and instantly join and warp to a group anywhere in the game and team up on them to get more sp.
IT is the best SP in the game so the hardcore players will join up with the casuals.
With thousands of people doing them a day and there being 10-20 partys seeking at all times, you can log in instantly party up and play.

So it is endless partys which is easy to join and can be 30mins long or 4hrs long depending on how long you want to play... really the perfect casual party setup.

Except no one uses the party feature which killed half that idea. And the population being about 10% what they expected also dealing a blow the system just does not work as intended.

This above would be my guess why the game is focused around it. Tanaka wanted the game to be party based (which every other mainstream mmo is not) and casual at the same time.

[Zenaku]

I was thinking 4-mans would be more like Tank, Healer, 2 DPS

Ahhh yes how can i forget the tanks o.o sorry dps,dps,healer,tank