How raids have hurt this game.

[argwings]

well, that was mostly just venting, which is fine, but you raise an interesting point.

please merge karnak with another world!

[BoltNixter]

There is a big guy in the next room being released this holiday. If SE dont move faster (1.19 in less then 3 weeks and 1.20 aprox 1 month after) he will cast a huge shadow over FFXIV. Just like WoW did to FFXI when it came out. Of course WoW didnt have much content and still dosent which resulted in ppl going back to XI. But this one is gonna be very imposing compared to the other and XIV will see its numbers fall pretty bad (it already is).
I hope the "force" is with SE ~

[akisato]

There is a big guy in the next room being released this holiday. If SE dont move faster (1.19 in less then 3 weeks and 1.20 aprox 1 month after) he will cast a huge shadow over FFXIV. Just like WoW did to FFXI when it came out. Of course WoW didnt have much content and still dosent which resulted in ppl going back to XI. But this one is gonna be very imposing compared to the other and XIV will see its numbers fall pretty bad (it already is).
I hope the "force" is with SE ~

Dont take this the wrong way but "That" game has no bearing on this one. If this game was a good game "That" game would still have a good chance to still alot of ppl from this game (or any other) with the IP it has

[Cyan]

There is a big guy in the next room being released this holiday. If SE dont move faster (1.19 in less then 3 weeks and 1.20 aprox 1 month after) he will cast a huge shadow over FFXIV. Just like WoW did to FFXI when it came out. Of course WoW didnt have much content and still dosent which resulted in ppl going back to XI. But this one is gonna be very imposing compared to the other and XIV will see its numbers fall pretty bad (it already is).
I hope the "force" is with SE ~

That's funny. Could you point me to the link that says it is being released "this holiday"? Pretty sure they have actually made the point NOT to release a date yet.

[BoltNixter]

Dont take this the wrong way but "That" game has no bearing on this one. If this game was a good game "That" game would still have a good chance to still alot of ppl from this game (or any other) with the IP it has

Your right~ altho i would stay here longer if it was excellent. Now i'll go try the other. Who know's maybe it will suck~

[Ilean]

How raids have hurt this game

Yeah, having people do raids instead of logout>uninstall is awful!

[AuroraBorealis]

Im kinda confused by this. im on Azury's server and Ive only seen good things come from this update. Yes some people have spent a lot more time outside of the city but its because they are enjoying the game more. its brought people back to the server that had barely played before. The amount of people in the cities has actually grown in my opinion and Ive seen way more stuff in the markets then before.

so really..I dont see what your complaining about Azury. heck I just saw you asking to join in on the raids today so you obviously are enjoying it too.

[Cyan]

Im kinda confused by this. im on Azury's server and Ive only seen good things come from this update. Yes some people have spent a lot more time outside of the city but its because they are enjoying the game more. its brought people back to the server that had barely played before. The amount of people in the cities has actually grown in my opinion and Ive seen way more stuff in the markets then before.

so really..I dont see what your complaining about Azury. heck I just saw you asking to join in on the raids today so you obviously are enjoying it too.

This. Wutai isn't nearly as desolate as it was made out to be. Azury must just play at odd times to not see any activity going on.

[Rhomagus]

Im kinda confused by this. im on Azury's server and Ive only seen good things come from this update. Yes some people have spent a lot more time outside of the city but its because they are enjoying the game more. its brought people back to the server that had barely played before. The amount of people in the cities has actually grown in my opinion and Ive seen way more stuff in the markets then before.

so really..I dont see what your complaining about Azury. heck I just saw you asking to join in on the raids today so you obviously are enjoying it too.

I literally lol'd on this.

I understand where Azury is coming from but I can't honestly agree entirely with what is said.

Her number seven is just a false misconception and is probably influenced by the community running Toto-Rak at R50. I can only agree with two of her solutions and that is a significant increase to the population and fixes in the party search function would significantly alleviate the problem. Raids certainly have not killed this game. If anything Dzemael has given lower level players and RPers a Rank goal to reach for. I've been in more pick up groups than before but I'm on Besaid where talking to others really was never a problem. I don't think a server merge is entirely necessary, but allowing people to move servers or an influx of population would alleviate Azury's fears.

[zaviermhigo]

The only thing hurting this game is the people who play it, same thing happened to XI, just happening rather quickly in this game due to the state it's in. 1.18/Raids have increased party play and fostered growing relationships between people outside of the same linkshell, and I don't want to go back to the same anti-social "linkshell fantasy online" we were playing before.

The party search feature is fine, player's refuse to use it out of a)never playing an mmo with an advanced party search feature or b) its not like XI'S OMG eff it i'll never use it. IMHO all it needs is a flag for seeking now and some sort of seacom.

I do believe r30 players with low phys levels cannot do toto-rak without pl. Honestly you'd prob need like GLA, CONJ,THM (for dd and back up heal), and then any other dd (archer doesn't matter half of much in this one). You would need a dedicated tank though, and a dedicated healer, and prob an off healer, because rank 30 people with low phys levels have gimp for mp, i mean the average rank 30 person i know doesn't have above a r40 phys level and has 600-600 mp, as a r32 conj, i have 1000mp due to phys level 50, it helps way more when doing the dungeons because you don't run out of mp half as fast. Even with mp management, with 600 mp you can't do crap. Yoshi P said the r25s wouldn't really required a dedicated party set up as much, but for now, with phys levels still in place, and lots of people level 30 for some reason who never level past that (unexplainable to me honestly easiest level range ever and they quit out and stay 30 for months but still on everyday? wth are you doing standing afk in uldah most the time?!) Those dungeons will be harder.

4 r30s with phys level 50 could do that dungeon just fine, or just as long as your vit and mnd are capped at that level its fine not nececcasirly phys level 50. But seriously my idea of a dungeon being fun isn't waiting for three other low level people to be unweakened -.- because they have no concept of hate management and pull all hate.