OFFICIAL Eorzea's Next Top Model Discussion Thread

[Percimont]

Can former models (especially those from Cycle 3) please give me their opinions on this matter? Do you love/hate/tolerate critiques? Do you welcome constructive criticism and insight into why you did or did not get someone's vote? Would you prefer that we stick to the voting and keep our opinions to ourselves? I like to think I'm being helpful, but I'm afraid I come off as arrogant and scathing. My opinions do not necessarily reflect the majority, so hopefully they can be taken with a grain of salt.

[Kaelah]

Can former models (especially those from Cycle 3) please give me their opinions on this matter? Do you love/hate/tolerate critiques? Do you welcome constructive criticism and insight into why you did or did not get someone's vote? Would you prefer that we stick to the voting and keep our opinions to ourselves? I like to think I'm being helpful, but I'm afraid I come off as arrogant and scathing. My opinions do not necessarily reflect the majority, so hopefully they can be taken with a grain of salt.

As a cycle 2 model, I loved them.

[Adeline]

Can former models (especially those from Cycle 3) please give me their opinions on this matter? Do you love/hate/tolerate critiques? Do you welcome constructive criticism and insight into why you did or did not get someone's vote? Would you prefer that we stick to the voting and keep our opinions to ourselves? I like to think I'm being helpful, but I'm afraid I come off as arrogant and scathing. My opinions do not necessarily reflect the majority, so hopefully they can be taken with a grain of salt.

I really enjoyed everyone's critiques. I think they add insight on what each of us needed to work on to produce better pics. I don't think anyone that ever did a critique ever meant to sound mean or evil. They just wanted to say why they chose/didn't choose pics of ours, and what we can do to improve them.

For every critique I got (from both fans/judges), I always tried to use every bit of info I got to influence the following week's shot. I will say that you can't please everyone, and it can be hard to get everyone's insight, but I always tried my best to please everyone. Unfortunately, you can't as well and that's something a model has to keep in mind~ many fans/judges like different things, and you will always end up disappointing one person.

I will say Perci you critiques were always helpful, and I think you have a great idea of what it takes to produce a good shot. I hope to keep seeing you around ENTM ^^ whether trying out in the future or handing out those critiques!

[Percimont]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback!

I always found your critiques insightful and helpful.

I will say Perci you critiques were always helpful, and I think you have a great idea of what it takes to produce a good shot. I hope to keep seeing you around ENTM ^^ whether trying out in the future or handing out those critiques!

Thanks, Flare and Adeline for the positive comments! I'm glad that you found my comments to be useful.

I really like the ENTM community and look forward to sticking around as a part of it! (I even remember Marik from the ARR beta forums! We frequented some common threads, though I went under a different name that I no longer remember.)

[Yamimarik]

I really like the ENTM community and look forward to sticking around as a part of it! (I even remember Marik from the ARR beta forums! We frequented some common threads, though I went under a different name that I no longer remember.)

Well aren't you a sweetie! I wish you could remember your name so I could remember if I remembered you or not hehe, yeah I love being part of the community, though lately life dictates me otherwise atm, but usually I'm kind of talkative and opinionated here and there.

To your earlier question, personally I'm torn between voter critiques. Like Kaiyoko said earlier, especially about certain things said in critiques, if it isn't helpful feedback whether it's praise, or an actual critique it's not really helping anyone. Some judges and voters did this during the competition, and it was honestly just a waste of the models time if you're not going to be constructive with your comments. Personally, I didn't really pay attention to most voter critiques just because, even though it can come out as a popularity contest, I wasn't trying to please the public in a way, I was trying to better my techniques/shots/etc. by what the judges constructively told me through out the competition. But I never allowed comments, negative, positive, or constructive ever dictate or change the actual style or who I was. I appreciate any constructive criticism, but please let it be actual criticism and not something like "I hate it, because it's not the right gear I like...", or "I hate your colors because I hate brown..." things like that definitely aren't helpful in a competition setting.

ANYONE READING THIS PLEASE TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION Not attacking anyone, just how I personally feel.

[Sangriah]

I think the critiques are very helpful. From the judges, its important to understand what it is they are looking for as well as how to improve. Percimont, I always found your public critiques honest and insightful. Before participating in this, I never paid much attention to things like the rule of 3rds which was brought up often by a few public critiquers. Overall, I think the important part of a critique is to explain why you don't like it and suggest a way to improve it so that your not just saying "you suck".

[Kaiyoko]

Can former models (especially those from Cycle 3) please give me their opinions on this matter? Do you love/hate/tolerate critiques? Do you welcome constructive criticism and insight into why you did or did not get someone's vote? Would you prefer that we stick to the voting and keep our opinions to ourselves? I like to think I'm being helpful, but I'm afraid I come off as arrogant and scathing. My opinions do not necessarily reflect the majority, so hopefully they can be taken with a grain of salt.

I actually have no issues with harsh critiques and I welcomed them. I know early on people were getting upset with the judges critiques and they seemed to tone down what they were saying critique wise. Saying "I liked your picture, but I liked others more. So I have to give you my required 1" was said frequently and I feel it's a cop out critique that does nothing for the models. If you're judging / critiquing you should just say what you think. It was frustrating to get something along that line for feedback.