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    Thayos Redblade
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    Hyperion
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    ...If you incite others to blacklist a specific player, you are in fact harassing that player - regardless of what you believe they have done.....
    This, I disagree with. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a "Joe Smith pulled the mark" shout. It all happens out there in the open... would seem kind of silly if we weren't allowed to simply comment on what we see. Most of us playing the game are adults, and nothing as benign as "this person pulled" should cause much of a ruckus. That's not enough for a rational, reasonable person to spiral into "harass" mode.

    One could argue that early pullers incited people to reset mobs, so others could get credit... but does that mean the early puller broke a rule? Of course not. Same thing goes for people who make simple, clean, non-negative comments which is followed by other players who choose to grief.

    All that aside, the problem isn't "public shaming." The problem is disagreement over when marks should be claimed. The "shaming" is simply a symptom of that problem.

    I wouldn't be so sure that players have no teeth and have zero means whatsoever to enforce player instituted standards of behavior. I witnessed a whole FC dissolve and jump server because of their bad hunt behavior.
    Yep, social consequences can be even more punishing than actual laws, just in a different way.

    Which is why I said earlier, the summary of this whole issue (for everyone involved) is simply "don't be an ass."
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    Last edited by Thayos; 01-30-2015 at 05:29 AM.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
    This, I disagree with. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a "Joe Smith pulled the mark" shout.
    I agree, that basic shout would not be a problem. But, adding the instruction or request for everyone to blacklist Joe in that instance would be, which was the point I was making.
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