In-Game Parser.

[MeiUshu]

(Genuine) harassment towards any class can be reported. It's not just DPS harassment.

ah yeah? and how many times have you received an answers other then a automatic answer ? dont tell me often because that is far from true.

Mei

[MeiUshu]

this game needs parsers.

The amount of new players/casual players that are hitting end game and have only expierenced echo and over geared situations is the majority. This individuals dont know how to handle mechanics because they haven't had to learn them, They dont fully understand all the actions they have access too, and havent been pushed to learn how to get better with gated content. (I find a lot of people have never tried titan ex, and will never learn the fight, as they no longer need to clear it to progress.)

So with a parser in game, people will be forced to see there numbers compared to others and ask questions to why they are not as good as others. With the current setup, most people think they are bad ass, when the pld is over dpsing them...

Also With the ToS banning parsers, those that do run them are afraid to say anything, and really not able to help in those raids with out fear of getting banned.

how many tims have you been into a group asked a question and never received an answer or just told to go and learn or watch a video or ask your fc or or or...? dont tell me never because that is not true either..Parsers are just a pain, and there for people to demean others less good then them and boost their egos and get the e-peenite affliction.

Mei

[Gardes]

how many tims have you been into a group asked a question and never received an answer or just told to go and learn or watch a video or ask your fc or or or...?

What does fight specific mechanic have to do with personal numerical output? You're seriously expecting me to not give you the weird eye if I meet you in t9 df and you ask "guys, how i do (insert your current job here)?"

[Atomnium]

Parsers are just a pain, and there for people to demean others less good then them and boost their egos and get the e-peenite affliction.

Your opinion is very rude and clueless :/ Parsers are just tools and like any real tools their uses greatly depend of the wielder.
- In good hands, they are just an incredible support that provide useful informations for yourself and for your team in order to work toward your goal... They are also mandatory for any endgame activities.
- In bad hands, they will be used by a very minority of jerks in order to exclude players from contents but... It's already the case, they don't need official parser to do it already.

Give an hammer to someone with good intentions and he will build/repair things but give the same hammer to someone with a nasty behaviour, he can use it to kill people.
Should we forbid the use of hammers in real life because we can possibly kill other with them?
Same question for ingame parsers. Don't punish the majority just because a minority can possibly turn an useful tool into a "dangerous weapon".

[Ehayte]

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ PARSER OR RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

Yeah. Parsers are not to make others feel bad they are to help you learn what is good and what is bad.

Just do a self-only parser that runs AT ALL TIMES. A parser on a dummy is useless, it doesn't take a genius to figure out the best vacuum rotation, it is needed IN FIGHTS for practical analysis.

I'm SURE its not that hard to program.

On a more aggressive and possibly less logical note; SE pretty much actively looks the other way from PC Parsers - as a PS4 user I have NO SHOT at getting a parse unless I ask my friends. Please give me at least a version of what they are able to access. I don't care so much about other's DPS, but it just majorly blows that I can't try different tactics on different pulls to see where I can max my DPS where as my friends and group-mates on PCs can. I have to ask every time, "What was my dps on that one? How about that one? How about that one? Ew, how about that one? That one? That one?"

Grrr...

[Kyuuen]

Current reliance is looking up what a classes current rotation/s is and when to best utilize them. A parser is only good for those that are willing to utilize said feature and actually >>study<< the data, key word being study. With gear inflation people will see their numbers rise and just figure that they're doing fine, but ultimately they'll still be required to know what their class should be putting out and at what ilvls. So what's the point? Either way some things will have to be looked up.

Just stick to the current model of knowing your rotations. Let those wanting to use third party parsers do so, as long as they keep it to themselves. Including in-game parsers will most likely only push the community into toxic areas, WoW being a perfect poster child for that fact.

[Konata]

it will still be used to name and shame people it one of the main thing that ruined world of warcraft because people would just insult people for doing sub par dps with no advice on how to improve it and the same thing will happen in FFXIV ARR if they added it in to the game beacuse of the nature of most end game raiding is atm that people would damand that the player have 400+ dps for everything the pf box on top of the 100exp 2 fail = kick rubbish

[Slappah]

I'm SURE its not that hard to program.

I don't think it is. If it is...it doesn't matter because it's already in game.

"Whaat?"

Yeah. Its already in game. Wolves den and Frontlines show total damage dealt, and healing restored at the end of each match.
But ya know. That's only OK because it's PvP where it's competitive.
Lol.

[Ehayte]

Current reliance is looking up what a classes current rotation/s ...
Let those wanting to use third party parsers do so, as long as they keep it to themselves...

Make it so only you can see your own parse.

Here's the problem: End game fights NEVER are just a rotation. There are mechanics where you break contact, do AE dmg, kill adds, apply your buffs/debuffs at different times, run around screaming, and throttling/pushing DPS. Knowing your rotation is a good start. Knowing if its more efficient to fracture each Gust of Myrceydia as a WAR OT in T13, or to use those 3 globals to IB/Steel Cyclone in time for the Sin to spawn is better DPS is something else entirely. That is just a small example of different DPS styles during a sinlge fight in end game.

it will still be used to name and shame people... people would damand that the player have 400+ dps for everything the pf box on top of the 100exp 2 fail = kick rubbish

Yeah, they should have 400+ dps for Final coil excluding BRDs on certain fights. If they don't, they are going to cause enrage. If you don't like the "xp for the whole fight low tolerance for error" PFs, make your own.

Alternatively, only make the Parser appear in Coil.

[Gardes]

it will still be used to name and shame people it one of the main thing that ruined world of warcraft because people would just insult people for doing sub par dps with no advice on how to improve it and the same thing will happen in FFXIV ARR if they added it in to the game beacuse of the nature of most end game raiding is atm that people would damand that the player have 400+ dps for everything the pf box on top of the 100exp 2 fail = kick rubbish

If parsers ruined world of warcraft, how come it grew so big?

Besides, how do you expect people to explain an entire class within 3 mins inside a duty finder just because one person does not know how to play and is in a trial that is beyond his means? If you're not doing well in the basics of a class and someone pointed it out, withdraw yourself, learn the class and come back stronger. A parser can help point that out and someone in the party who knows the meta library can show you the links. Sure the group will likely end without any win but at least it's not on bad terms (if the under performing player doesn't have a thin skin). Right now players who already knows someone is doing poorly can either just keep quiet and lament/seeth or start going ham on the party chat because he does not care or start under performing themselves because doing their best is futile when the others aren't or just start using afk/kick/vote antics. Everyone doesn't clear the fight and much more time has been wasted. Which side wins exactly?

You can't seriously expect to still win when a relevant fight expects the whole group to contribute equally to its capacity and you aren't contributing as much to the party and the group comes up short? Right?