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  1. #41
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Their PLD is full time sword oath and the WAR MTs most of the hits.
    No, look at the parse for damage taken. PLD is MT in sword oath.

    I do T10/12 in sword oath full time (unless something goes wrong). Revelation only does 4k.. crit auto attacks are more dangerous since they aren't telegraphed.

    As for how it's possible.... it's because their healers are god tier.

    My personal best in T10 is 373, and that's in full Ruby, with a little bit of TP starvation towards the end. T12 is around 330ish I think.
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  2. #42
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    How does he keep DPS up during the charge? I'm sure they only see three charges total but still my DpS drops hard waiting during the charge.
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  3. #43
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    Abbul Stonecleaver
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    I have heard of tanks not just standing back behind the puddle waiting, or tossing Tomahawks, however the one time I tried going after Imdugud, I didn't get in front fast enough and he murdered our Monk with his crackle hiss. Maybe even someone else. So I decided to not change up anything. I just provoke- Skull Sunder- Butcherblock- Heavy Swing (would Fracture if it wasn't already up)- Infuriate and wait
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbul_Stonecleaver View Post
    I have heard of tanks not just standing back behind the puddle waiting, or tossing Tomahawks, however the one time I tried going after Imdugud, I didn't get in front fast enough and he murdered our Monk with his crackle hiss. Maybe even someone else. So I decided to not change up anything. I just provoke- Skull Sunder- Butcherblock- Heavy Swing (would Fracture if it wasn't already up)- Infuriate and wait
    Yeah I've tried it. Maybe they rotate the boss around the room so the PLD can chase him and not MPK the raid.

    I'd love to see a video of their speed runs.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    How does he keep DPS up during the charge? I'm sure they only see three charges total but still my DpS drops hard waiting during the charge.
    Because they don't do the pug method if "im gonna stand here doing nothing and wait for him to walk back" approach. Nor do we, because it's dumb. You follow it on charge, then you just walk it back to the side of the puddle. Or, with high dps, it will phase transition immediately after, then it's also conveniently placed close to where adds will spawn so melee don't have to move far at all.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Because they don't do the pug method if "im gonna stand here doing nothing and wait for him to walk back" approach. Nor do we, because it's dumb. You follow it on charge, then you just walk it back to the side of the puddle. Or, with high dps, it will phase transition immediately after, then it's also conveniently placed close to where adds will spawn so melee don't have to move far at all.
    Get off your high horse lol, you are coming off like an ass. PUG method that 95% of statics use lol.

    Doesn't the puddle form before the charge? Just strafe around it while he's turning?
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  7. #47
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    95% of statics are also inefficient and don't even try to optimize, just to do "good enough" to clear, I don't see your counterpoint. The reason pugs don't do this is because the boss is 1) its how they learned it and doing something different means 'you suck and dont know what youre doing' and 2) the boss is no longer in a static position and the group needs to accommodate for that, i.e. your "person with charge marker goes to A" no longer works since everything is rotating.

    Puddle forms before charge, you strafe to the side then follow it on charge.
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  8. #48
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    Finished fight of T12 tonight at 244 with my new i130 axe. Our tactic in last phase involves OT standing in fountain for 3 stacks not in range of Phoenix which is a huge hit to dps.

    I have no idea what I was parsing before Bennu phase.
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  9. #49
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    Oh but I did hit 310 with Diamond Axe tonight in T10. New high. Next week with new axe I am excited to see what I can hit.
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbul_Stonecleaver View Post
    Finished fight of T12 tonight at 244 with my new i130 axe. Our tactic in last phase involves OT standing in fountain for 3 stacks not in range of Phoenix which is a huge hit to dps.

    I have no idea what I was parsing before Bennu phase.
    If I were you I'd politely ask your raid leader to change the order to some combination of SCH, WHM, BRD, and caster. Melee free is the way to go.
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