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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Bad Rotations and habits can be reflected by a parser when compared to someone's numbers.

    On another note, I never entirely understood the harassment claim on parsers being available to everyone. If that already exists at current, with those who have access to hit harassing others (not everyone uses parsers for this purpose), why would giving everyone parsers hurt?
    What is currently a small problem would become a big problem if opened up and specifically sanctioned by SE through party wide parsers being endorsed and/or offered by SE themselves. It remains small problem right now due to people being very cautious on their use of party wide parsers in this game, most people who do use one not being willing to admit to using them due to it being a perceived grey area within the rules/guidelines.

    Personal parser in the way of a SE created target dummy DPS checker would not be as open to abuse as a party wide variation, it is one thing to keep failing at something and then deciding to find out if you are part of the problem via a personal DPS parse on a target dummy compared to everyone seeing your DPS or being told by someone using a DPS wide party parser then being singled out and targeted for harassment and abuse in that trial or raid.

    I am all for personal use DPS check target dummy for example but highly against a party wide SE sanctioned parser. One is more susceptible to abuse and misuse while the other is not. It should remain optional feature and not a mandatory one due to high very tiny amount of content in this game that even needs such high DPS checks alongside most content in this game not requiring such a feature at all...so making it a mandatory feature is ridiculous and naive.
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    Snugglebutt if I could hit the Like button 100 more times, I'd do it.
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    Anyone who is against a parser is just scared/embarrassed to have the party see how bad they really are and how much they get carried constantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Anyone who is against a parser is just scared/embarrassed to have the party see how bad they really are and how much they get carried constantly.
    Way to make a broad over generalization based on nothing but your own misconceptions through arrogance and ignorance.
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    No it's pretty much correct. If you are confident in your own ability, you don't care about a parser or are already running one. And for those who want to get better, or aren't aware of how well they do? Parser can inspire to get better.

    The ones vehemently opposed are the ones who do not want others to know how bad they are and have no desire for self-improvement.

    The player base in FFXIV is pretty bad in general, so while a parser would certainly work on increasing average skill level, there would also be lost subs of crybabies who are angry that they are being kicked for being bad, then instead of getting better they just quit. It isn't hard to play at an adequate level, but it does involve practice and hitting a training target to become comfortable with a rotation.
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    Just give it to us, everyone who cares about their performance or wants to get a functioning pug coil group going will use a third party product anyway.
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    SE has already spoken, they don't want in game parser as players will use it to harass players with lower DPS.

    If you want parser, there's plenty of 3rd party programs that SE cannot legally detect unless you type stupid shit into the chat and get reported for it.

    I do agree parser is a useful tool, but I also see SE's side of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    No it's pretty much correct. If you are confident in your own ability, you don't care about a parser or are already running one. And for those who want to get better, or aren't aware of how well they do? Parser can inspire to get better.

    The ones vehemently opposed are the ones who do not want others to know how bad they are and have no desire for self-improvement.
    Yes because it's SUCH a bad thing to not bother wanting to do raid content. It's people like you that give the game a bad reputation with the raid community. Nobody wants to deal with elitist who will call out people. You are a prime example of why parsers WILL NOT and SHOULD NOT be put into the game. You are the type of person who would get more enjoyment of dragging someone's numbers through the mud instead of helping them. I'm glad I moved out from Sargantanas. There are people in this game and let me break it down for you into something you can possibly understand due to your bliss that came with the sheer amount of ignorance you are exhibiting.

    1. People play the game to enjoy it.
    2. People play the game to have fun.
    3. Raids are not hard.
    4. Mechanics are not hard.
    5. Parsers are not require, due to this reason. There is a rotation for all jobs. If you do the rotation correctly your optimal DPS will remain at a set number regardless of a parser or not.
    6. Gear sets come with a standard amount of stats. These stats increase DPS count until a full damage threshold is met, usually by having a full set of armor. Parsing will not help this as you will hit that cap eventually and will be stuck at that number.

    Do you get it now or must I explain it further to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Rather play a game where the developers allow players to enjoy the game how they wish to do so within some basic guidelines such as rules to stop harassment, cheating and such than play one that follows your tyrannical dictatorship stepping on anyone who plays differently to yourself and forcing them into a single play style, your desired play style via mandatory DPS checks on everyone, even those who do not care for the small amount of content in this game that would even require such DPS checks.
    Your comment doesn't really make sense and you explain why yourself.

    Why would you use a parser, if it wasn't for the content that makes them viable, IE: Raids? Rarely do people use parsers in content not raid related AND harass people. Are we gonna harass people in Hunts or Snowcloak?

    It makes absolutely no sense to be offended by someone saying you have low DPS, when you're participating in content that may require high DPS. You can play the game how you want 100%. Not everyone should be forced to accept how sloppy you play either especially in end-game content. Once you venture into this content, your goal is to clear it and you cannot do that unless you conquer the DPS checks which are yes, high.

    A personal parser, gives you almost nothing though in that enviorment. In fact the information it would give you, would be terribly misleading and skewed as a dummy, does not enforce mechanics or movement. Thus it gives you numbers that are higher then in the actual fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    No it's pretty much correct. If you are confident in your own ability, you don't care about a parser or are already running one. And for those who want to get better, or aren't aware of how well they do? Parser can inspire to get better.

    The ones vehemently opposed are the ones who do not want others to know how bad they are and have no desire for self-improvement.
    Firstly you do not know the motives of anyone who hasn't told you what their motives are, that is where your arrogance and ignorance comes into play. I personally have said I am for personal DPS parser which only you can view, I am against party wide parsers because they are not only more open to abuse but are being used to single out, harass and abuse other players currently by those who use such quite often. I am beginning to think you have reading comprehension problem which is exasperated by your ignorance and arrogance on this issue.
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