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    No it's pretty much correct. If you are confident in your own ability, you don't care about a parser or are already running one. And for those who want to get better, or aren't aware of how well they do? Parser can inspire to get better.

    The ones vehemently opposed are the ones who do not want others to know how bad they are and have no desire for self-improvement.

    The player base in FFXIV is pretty bad in general, so while a parser would certainly work on increasing average skill level, there would also be lost subs of crybabies who are angry that they are being kicked for being bad, then instead of getting better they just quit. It isn't hard to play at an adequate level, but it does involve practice and hitting a training target to become comfortable with a rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    No it's pretty much correct. If you are confident in your own ability, you don't care about a parser or are already running one. And for those who want to get better, or aren't aware of how well they do? Parser can inspire to get better.

    The ones vehemently opposed are the ones who do not want others to know how bad they are and have no desire for self-improvement.
    Yes because it's SUCH a bad thing to not bother wanting to do raid content. It's people like you that give the game a bad reputation with the raid community. Nobody wants to deal with elitist who will call out people. You are a prime example of why parsers WILL NOT and SHOULD NOT be put into the game. You are the type of person who would get more enjoyment of dragging someone's numbers through the mud instead of helping them. I'm glad I moved out from Sargantanas. There are people in this game and let me break it down for you into something you can possibly understand due to your bliss that came with the sheer amount of ignorance you are exhibiting.

    1. People play the game to enjoy it.
    2. People play the game to have fun.
    3. Raids are not hard.
    4. Mechanics are not hard.
    5. Parsers are not require, due to this reason. There is a rotation for all jobs. If you do the rotation correctly your optimal DPS will remain at a set number regardless of a parser or not.
    6. Gear sets come with a standard amount of stats. These stats increase DPS count until a full damage threshold is met, usually by having a full set of armor. Parsing will not help this as you will hit that cap eventually and will be stuck at that number.

    Do you get it now or must I explain it further to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    babble
    If raids are not hard, why do so many people fail? Oh, it's probably because they are doing 150 dps and think they are doing fine when in fact they are killing the party by not meeting dps checks when they should be doing 350.

    Why is someone who didn't clear T5 until 2.3? and hasn't cleared T9 talking about raid difficulty? Can you explain that part to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Why is someone who didn't clear T5 until 2.3? and hasn't cleared T9 talking about raid difficulty? Can you explain that part to me?
    Why is an elitist member of the microscopic sized extremely hardcore raiding community trying to dictate how the majority of people should be forced to play in a mandatory way? That community is niché, it is a tiny fraction of this player base, you should not be trying to force (mandatory) features which would cater to your tiny group onto the majority who do not play as you do and are not part of your tiny group. If remained optional you would not lose out because those who fall into your category of your community would have the option of using such. There is no legitimate excuse for making such mandatory especially when those who are part of that community are such a tiny fraction of this player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Ignorance
    Because my progression is my own. Once again why should I be forced to live up to someone else's expectations of me? I pay 15$ a month to enjoy the game the way I see fit. I'll be damned if you're going to tell me how to play my role because you use a 3rd party device to do so. Why can't you play the game without a parser? Why can't you think for yourself for once and see what you are doing wrong with your own eyes?

    The reason people fail is because nobody has the damn patience to teach people. People like you who don't stand for nothing less than perfection were new to fights at one point. You are no prodigy, everyone has a learning curve. You fail to understand the fact that if a parser is used in a party wide situation it will be used to harass and kick players out of parties due to low number count.

    > Why should I have to put up with someone's lower tier play?
    > Why should they have to put up with your elitist attitude?

    The swing goes both ways honey. If you have forgotten that with a parser comes a malicious attitude towards those with lower skill levels, this harassment is what SE has been and always will avoid. The game isn't about numbers. It's about having fun with your friends and enjoying what value the game provides to you. You clearly can't see this due to your black and white perspective between elite and casual players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    The reason people fail is because nobody has the damn patience to teach people.
    The irony of this comment, is that no one could teach you how to be better unless they knew you were that much worse, which would require a parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    The reason people fail is because nobody has the damn patience to teach people.
    You can't teach people if you don't know they're doing something wrong, though. Unless you sit there and watch their entire rotation, you have no way of knowing if someone's rotation is completely off. All you're going to know is that you're not passing a DPS check in a fight. You aren't going to know who, you aren't going to know why, and as such you can't help them even if you want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    Yes because it's SUCH a bad thing to not bother wanting to

    1. People play the game to enjoy it.
    2. People play the game to have fun.
    3. Raids are not hard.
    4. Mechanics are not hard.
    5. Parsers are not require, due to this reason. There is a rotation for all jobs. If you do the rotation correctly your optimal DPS will remain at a set number regardless of a parser or not.
    6. Gear sets come with a standard amount of stats. These stats increase DPS count until a full damage threshold is met, usually by having a full set of armor. Parsing will not help this as you will hit that cap eventually and will be stuck at that number.

    Do you get it now or must I explain it further to you?
    it not hard but if you are doing Coil of Bahamut T13 you NEED DPS ,T13 is DPS and healer game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    Yes because it's SUCH a bad thing to not bother wanting to do raid content. It's people like you that give the game a bad reputation with the raid community. Nobody wants to deal with elitist who will call out people. You are a prime example of why parsers WILL NOT and SHOULD NOT be put into the game. You are the type of person who would get more enjoyment of dragging someone's numbers through the mud instead of helping them.
    If you don't know how to play and can't perform adequately, either through mechanics, DPS, HPS etc, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to try to jump into groups that want to succeed, and you definitely don't have the right to tell those people otherwise.

    We get it, you don't want to raid. So go ahead and stop acting like raiders using parsers during raids is somehow hurting you while you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    If you don't know how to play and can't perform adequately, either through mechanics, DPS, HPS etc, you have absolutely no right whatsoever to try to jump into groups that want to succeed, and you definitely don't have the right to tell those people otherwise.
    This much I understand, I have no problem teaching people mechanics. The problem is the fact that a parser will always be used in a malicious manner by those who are of the elitist community, no matter how much you slice it. You can sit here and argue that "It's a good resource for gathering information." This much IS true and I have no problem with it doing JUST that. But when someone then takes that information and broadcast it to 7 other people in front of them and calls them out on poor performance THERE is your problem. That is what I am shooting at here and I'm guessing SE is too. It becomes a tool for harassment instead of helping.
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