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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slib View Post
    They prevent damage overall which was what I was trying to get at. Damage Preventing will reduce future healing required. You are still getting EHPS from the succors for lets say, Mega Flare into a Rage of Bahamut. You can also have a sacred soil down for both hits too AND a breath on the tank also. That mitigation helps pick scholar up to the point where they can't burst heal like a White Mage. That is my point. If the damage is dealt and people need a pick me up ASAP then yes, white mage cure 3 is godlike. But, in most, if not all situations, a lot of damage prevention with a Whispering Dawn as an after effect of picking everyone up over time is highly effective.
    I'm very familiar with how SCH mitigation works, and there are plenty of situations where working with a WHM is way more efficient. There are good reasons why player max HP and the presence of a WHM are of concern in certain fights.

    Edited because I'm not sure exactly what we're debating here. My main point is that there are obviously things that WHMs do better and/or differently than SCHs and that WHMs still don't need "fixing" beyond allowing Shroud to scale with Max MP going forward.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 01-29-2015 at 08:57 AM.

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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    My main point is that there are obviously things that WHMs do better and/or differently than SCHs and that WHMs still don't need "fixing" beyond allowing Shroud to scale with Max MP going forward.
    I'm not so sure about the shroud scaling. It would remove the whole mp management aspect of the class. White Mages who use shroud when they're low on MP (keeping shroud off CD) will certainly welcome this. But the white mages who use it the moment they're 900-1000 under maximum and keep it on CD will have a crazy abundance of MP. While this may or may not mean white mages can change their BiS gear to focus on other stats. In what other stat should white mage focus on then? If there's not enough Piety Shroud won't be as effective and with too much you'll be some MP piggy bank. I don't believe shroud scaling will do anything worthwhile aside from creating more extreme ends of being MP-deprived or MP-abundant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
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    I'm thinking more towards a hypothetical future where, say, 8k max MP is average for WHM and the MP-restoring benefit of Shroud becomes virtually unnoticeable unless ramped up commensurately.

    Also consider that not only are the base MP costs of existing skills likely to scale up as character level increases to 60 and beyond, new skills will possibly have their own significant MP costs to balance any increase in MP gain.

    Basically the thought is to maintain status quo, not munchkinize WHM MP management.
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