Relic Weapons: Going Forward

[HaelseMikiro]

Why would a quest take a lvl 50 weapon and upgrade it to a lvl 60 one? Why not just give players a fresh one?

Also, as I understand it, the zodiac weapon is supposed to be the fully upgraded version of the relic weapon. It isn't a new weapon. Just one that is completed the total upgrade process.

Nope, Zodiac is actually a new weapon. You go through the entire process of gathering materials to create a new base host. Crafting Zodiac is akin to killing the Chimera and the hardmode primals to get crafting materials just to start the weapon off. Relic weapon gets busted down into materia for the crafting process.

As for how we could go about converting the zodiac to level 60, I expect it will either simply level with the job, or a quest that becomes available after we complete our level 60 job quest. Since SE just came out with new weapon designs and names for the zodiacs, I highly doubt they're going to immediately brush them aside without a lengthy upgrade quest line.

[MageBlack]

I thought i heard somewhere (during one of the fanfests i think) that the relic weapons will be something that carrys through the whole game. Each expansion will continue the upgrades. Weapons like "Excalibur" were supposed the be the most powerful weapon in the game. In an offline game, this is easy to do but in an online, ever evolving and expanding game, its harder to maintain. While they don't want to make it BiS they will keep it viable for current high end content and something that will become a bragging rights of sorts. "i went through all this BS to get the sword! Respect me!" lol.

I wish i could remember where i read/heard/saw that. I don't know if that makes sense but i hope this is how they will handle it. It's not something I have completed yet but is something I'm always working towards.

EDIT:

Then this wonderful person below me found the quote I was looking for!

Thanks Kiara!

[Kiara]

Yoshida already responded about this. Relics continue in 3.0. (Awesome!)

Bump:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/120...=1#post6330816

fast translate before i sleep....

Patch 2.51 will create the "ultimate" zodiac weapon.

QNS: Will the Zodiac series be continued in heavensward?
Yoshida
Until now, the zodiac weapon quest has been coming a long way so, "Please forget whatever happens till now" is something we are not going to do this time.
In heavensward, lvl cap is raised and player will grow again in terms of power etc, so naturally, new items will be obtained from new contents.
Therefore, with this, the zodiac weapon quest will also continue to player's growth, but will be scheduled in 3.1


QNS: So, during that time, to the owners of the zodiac, are there consideration for them? (idk wtf he means really)
Yoshida: Of course!


QNS: Before that, it seems like in patch 2.51, the zodiac weapons will continue to grow...
Yoshida
in patch 2.51, you will see the "ultimate" form of the ZWs. With this, in heavensward, you will see ZW continue to grow into greater heights and therefore, can still be used in various situations.


QNS: So.... what is this "ultimate" version be in terms of IL.....
Yoshida
Im sorry, i cant disclose that before patch comes.
Putting IL aside, things such as "MAX determination", tuning the weapon to your desired stats is the greatest advantage of yhe ZW. You can even adjust the stats on ZW according to your existing gears.[/B]

There you go guys, farm that 3 sets of atmas, alex, ZW items if you havent!!!

tl;dr Zodiac weapons are continuing in Heavensward, get to grinding.

Thanks Deculture.

Excellent news! So glad that the Relic Weapon will continue in 3.0.

Here's the original article as well from Famitsu (Japan's #1 Videogame Magazine):

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201501/20069775.html

[MageBlack]

Something I hope to see with Heavensward, but doubt it will happen, is that Level of weapon start to catch back up to the iLevel by having some lateral progression. More options for iLev 120 items that have varying stat bonuses. Maybe things that are more specific and less generalized. Like an Axe that has a bonus to Emnity Generation, or a +to Skull Sunder, or a decrease in recast time for Infuriate.

Still, thanks for the post above there Kiara!

[Intaki]

You wanna know what's gonna be hilarious? All the supporters of Relics continuing to be built upon through every expansion whining when the old grinds get nerfed so hard you can blow through them (all of them, Zenith to Nexus) in a week.

You can have a weapon that sticks with you forever and is always second-rate to weapons from raiding, or you can have an old weapon that carries prestige and signifies that you put in the time and the hard work to create a lasting symbol of your veteran status. But unless SE really wants to piss off the new subs, you can't have both.

[Rbstr]

I think they should let people "skip" a decent bit of the old relic quest to a relic-type weapon that's relevant to current ilevel, post heavensward.
BUT they should still still have to go through the stat-customization process via materia. Having the Zodiac weapon already would allow you to skip a very time/cost intensive step.

Lets say in heavensward there's tome gear at i150, raid gear at i160. This will give wiggle room for a more 2.0-style ilevel ramp. You get to make a new relic. The first quest either gives you the i145 in "traditional" stats, or the i145 in your zodiak stats. Next upgrade is i155, but you have to put stats on it via a nexus-like process. If you had the zodiac weapon you get to skip the materia part.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

I wanted to be rewarded somehow for completing the zodiak going into the expansion but if I'm stuck with the look of this spear I'm dissapointed we won't be getting a new relic. I just don't like the longinus and hope for a change to it soon. It just isn't very dragoon-y. Reading that interview with Yoshi makes sound like it will be this zodiak look for a while.

[Intaki]

I wanted to be rewarded somehow for completing the zodiak going into the expansion but if I'm stuck with the look of this spear I'm dissapointed we won't be getting a new relic. I just don't like the longinus and hope for a change to it soon. It just isn't very dragoon-y. Reading that interview with Yoshi makes sound like it will be this zodiak look for a while.

When I first saw Longinus I thought a mistake had been made and the new BLM weapon had simply been mislabeled.

[Spawnie]

i personally hope they continue the same kinda of upgrade process time consuming quests every cpl of months to upgrade the relic weapons :3 i quite enjoy the time n effort that goes into them aslong as they will always remain the 2nd best weapon in game then i really dont see a problem with it :3

[Deathscythe343]

i personally hope they continue the same kinda of upgrade process time consuming quests every cpl of months to upgrade the relic weapons :3 i quite enjoy the time n effort that goes into them aslong as they will always remain the 2nd best weapon in game then i really dont see a problem with it :3

You enjoy spending months on the upgrade process only to be rewarded with a weapon that is a marginal upgrade from the previous version?