2.4 SMN Class Issues

[Leonus]

hey there fellas.

I don't know what should be done for balance since I don't play mage classes. I just want to pose some questions, Should smn really have higher ST than blm in a standstill fight? If the do, the gap would be pretty big in highs with high movement wouldn't they?

Then we'd be seeing blm crying for buffs. It's a pretty viscious cycle until the are doing the same amount as melee dps in a fight lol. As soon as that happens, melee will go extinct because there would be no reason to bring someone who is limited to staying on the boss for damage and in "more danger" of taking damage than ranged. They'd be a liability in every way except for limit break.

Then the melee will cry for buffs.... and so on.

Maybe smn and blm should be tied In ST damage in fights with smn pulling ahead in heavy movement ones?

[Shizuna]

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A really good blm should know how to manage themselves in high movement fight and not be a liability. If they utilize manawall/manaward at the right time and use aetherial manipulate, they don't need to move around a lot. In pre-echo T8, BLM can do really close to or the same as melee DPS in that fight if they don't really have to do anything. Meanwhile, SMN's are all the way down there by a 60-80 dps gap, but of course this was with i110 gear. Even in T11, a slight movement fight, SMN does 40-70 dps lower than a BLM cause most of that is ST. You would think that SMN's can be closer in damage with how there's 3 nodes, but there's a risk to that since 2 adds need to be killed at about the same time.

If SMN and BLM should be tied in ST damage, I guess that would be ok, but BLM will still be superior in AoE damage, so there will still be an advantage of bringing BLM if a fight had some part to AoE at, like T12 and 13. But having the gap be closed or somewhat closer would be nice to see.

[Sen_Terrechant]

hey there fellas.

I don't know what should be done for balance since I don't play mage classes. I just want to pose some questions, Should smn really have higher ST than blm in a standstill fight? If the do, the gap would be pretty big in highs with high movement wouldn't they?

Then we'd be seeing blm crying for buffs. It's a pretty viscious cycle until the are doing the same amount as melee dps in a fight lol. As soon as that happens, melee will go extinct because there would be no reason to bring someone who is limited to staying on the boss for damage and in "more danger" of taking damage than ranged. They'd be a liability in every way except for limit break.

Then the melee will cry for buffs.... and so on.

Maybe smn and blm should be tied In ST damage in fights with smn pulling ahead in heavy movement ones?

Soo.. BLM gets to be better AoE, Single target, aaand burst while having no resource pool? BLM mobility isnt bad, although a bit RNG, and SMN mobility isnt as good as people think it is. SMN also need to be in melee range to really take advantage of their DPS.