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  1. #11
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Pretty much this. If someone found a hunt, it's theirs to claim as they please. It's a courteous thing the do when people hold the mob and wait for every single last person in Eorzea that wants to join in, but it's not a requirement by any means.

    If someone else pulls it before anyone else intended to engage it, then it is what it is. No one HAS to wait for everyone else, even if it is the "nice" thing to do.
    THANK YOU FINALLY some one other than me has said it. And yes we have been here so many times before SE must have been on something if they thought this was a good idea again just put the stuff in world of darkness with a weekly lock out of gear lock. There problem solved.
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  2. #12
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SithCait View Post
    I blame the game for making this endgame stuff noob-able.
    Why shouldn't they be able to get high level gear.
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  3. #13
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    ColdHearted's Avatar
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    Cold Hearted
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    OK here is the deal, I am not saying I condone pulling targets before anyone else can get there but there is a patience window that runs out very quickly when there are multiple A ranks open at one time.

    That being said, if you are the person complaining about early pulls, YOU are more than likely the problem. Simple solution is STAY IN YOUR GROUP AND SCOUT. Use Ariyala's website to know when and where to be and you will no longer be the one crying that it got pulled early, you will be the one reaping the max credits at every hunt.

    When I am hunting I either create a PF and stay in it or find a group of people that are scouting to stick with. People that know you are dedicating your time to hunting will be more likely to keep the group going even when people bounce and will inevitably re-invite you to their group tomorrow for the same A rank ass kicking. It may even get you a few friend requests and/or invited into a few more active linkshells, increasing the opportunity to know when the next hunt is found.

    I understand there are other things to do in this game that cannot be done in PF or in group but simply calling out people for early pulling and not looking internally for a solution is selfish and will not get you very far in any MMO
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  4. #14
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    SithCait's Avatar
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    Daka'to Dakwill
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Working for your gear and endgame items seems fair to me. I get that the game is trying to make endgame stuff obtainable for everyone it just seems they didn't plan it out well. For the people who studied the game and mastered the mechanics of their roles and boss fights its kinda lame a horde of noobs can farm easy hunts all day and get basically the same stuff, and pretty soon you got a entire server off clueless 118 people or whatever.
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  5. #15
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    Lyzern's Avatar
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    Lyzern Thorvandr
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Honestly, what makes you think anyone has to wait for anyone? Enlighten me please.
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    Everything is bearable with music

  6. #16
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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SithCait View Post
    Working for your gear and endgame items seems fair to me. I get that the game is trying to make endgame stuff obtainable for everyone it just seems they didn't plan it out well. For the people who studied the game and mastered the mechanics of their roles and boss fights its kinda lame a horde of noobs can farm easy hunts all day and get basically the same stuff, and pretty soon you got a entire server off clueless 118 people or whatever.
    Those clueless people will still never learn to run T13 yet alone savage runs. Plus most of the stuff from hunts isn't BiS. These are the guys who will be complaining about relics and going with unweathered gear.

    I don't even run final coil but meh. For what I do. i120 and i130 don't make too much of a difference. Yeah I would like to do FCOB but I will be just doing pick up runs when available.
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  7. #17
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    AbandonHopeTD's Avatar
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    Saya Dee
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    Ravana
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Pretty much this. If someone found a hunt, it's theirs to claim as they please.
    When I find a mark I shout to wait, you think that stops anyone? lol
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  8. #18
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    Geist's Avatar
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    Geist Geiser
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AbandonHopeTD View Post
    When I find a mark I shout to wait, you think that stops anyone? lol
    From personal experience, it doesn't work most of the time, and it's kind of aggravating to see it happen with S ranks -you- have spotted and shouted about.
    Besides the lag spikes you can get from all those people suddenly converging on the same area, marks die so quickly that people sometimes won't simply be able to answer your request if someone just happened to pull the target.

    IMHO, it just feels plain wrong to see an S rank gone in under a minute and even A ranks with smart moves (Marraco, Maahes with its petrifying/paralyzing attacks, Hellsclaw come to mind) getting utterly destroyed in less than thirty seconds, and all the while the targeting is coming and going (or just plain failing) because of the load.

    Anyway, at this rate the herd should get their carbontwine soon and move on. Please look towards it, I guess?... I suppose we gotta stay positive, and at the very least dungeons cannot be swarmed.
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    Last edited by Geist; 01-31-2015 at 09:54 AM.

  9. #19
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    30 seconds to kill?
    Heh the last three S ranks I've seen died in ONE hit apiece from the zerg of players around it. I got a hit in on each and being only on a level 35 class at the time, and not in a group, I only got a bare minimum of seals. But I still got some.
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  10. #20
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    Geist's Avatar
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    Geist Geiser
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    30 seconds to kill?
    Heh the last three S ranks I've seen died in ONE hit apiece from the zerg of players around it. I got a hit in on each and being only on a level 35 class at the time, and not in a group, I only got a bare minimum of seals. But I still got some.
    Haven't tried poking at S ranks with a lower classed job, but in regard to those one hit kills - I'm sure it's technically possible if the mob gets low enough on the priority chain and there's enough instantaneous firepower to mow it down... and given the size of the horde at peak times, even on Excalibur, I can believe it. The poor boss won't even get to whip out a counter (pray the server doesn't keel over, of course).

    Ah well!
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