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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    I deal with people like you all the time (and win) so I'll share my own perspective. You undercut by 100k at a time? I will still undercut back. You destroy my profit? Guess what? You're destroying your own profit too.
    Two crafters don't necessarily have the same profit margins for an item at a given price. You don't know what your competition invested into that item. If you bought your battlecraft 3s and he desynth'd all of his from dungeon loot then that's about 500k-1mil of wiggle room he has. It's possible for him to sell his product at a price you simply can't compete with and still make a solid profit.

    Honestly, I'd like to see more ways to differentiate products. When everyone is selling identical items then undercutting is the only way we can compete. Sure you have HQing, but everyone knows that NQ is desynth fodder or vendor trash.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    Two crafters don't necessarily have the same profit margins for an item at a given price. You don't know what your competition invested into that item. If you bought your battlecraft 3s and he desynth'd all of his from dungeon loot then that's about 500k-1mil of wiggle room he has. It's possible for him to sell his product at a price you simply can't compete with and still make a solid profit.
    Your example is still a net loss because you simply could have sold the battlecrafts instead and made more gil that way. I farm most of my mats but still include their market value in profit calculations. Again, why? Because the end product better sell for more than the mats were worth. If it's not, sell the mats instead.
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    Winter Sandman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Your example is still a net loss because you simply could have sold the battlecrafts instead and made more gil that way. I farm most of my mats but still include their market value in profit calculations. Again, why? Because the end product better sell for more than the mats were worth. If it's not, sell the mats instead.
    Depends on the time value of gathering said items. Time is money too. Some people don't value their time as high. Also if your short on inventory space. Space is money. Sometimes you want something to move quick so you can sell more or get more things out the door. In order to get things to move you drop the price.
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    Last edited by Wintersandman; 02-03-2015 at 07:18 AM.