Alliance que/partial alliance que

[DividedSky]

So you are saying that people aren't allowed to group together because its not fair? Then they should remove party queing all together but that would make it so anti-social. That would be rediculous. This is an MMO you should allow people to do things together or they're not going to want to do them at all. Wolves den DIED because of that mentality. SE catered to it... and it killed the den. Even when people were getting completely facerolled in wolves den the ques were still really fast and people kept doing it... yeah people got mad b/c they lost... but they still qued... Now no one ques because everything has been separated into... noobs here... premades here... and no one knows which to que for anymore so ques are INSANELY slow so no one does it at all. On top of that they added a matching system that even matched ranked to make it even more fair..... this is where the "fair" path you are describing leads and it kills pvp.

[PotatoTree]

So you are saying that people aren't allowed to group together because its not fair?

This is not PvE. This is PvP, an inherently more competitive environment. People do stop queueing because they are getting roflstomped. Wolves den died not because of the queuing structure, but because morale was broken, there were not enough rewards, and it lost critical mass needed to keep the queues going.