Well Square, you really messed up this patch (PvP-wise)

[Sanghelios]

Okay, i have a little update on my point #4. After a bunch of games i noticed that healers arent that much focused anymore. Probably because the whole fight is so confusing that heals can be overseen easily and another thing might be that most ppl are scared to run to other gc's safespots to annoy heals or simply focusing on boss most of the time. Either way i have to withdraw that point because i already quite like the healing in the new mode.


On the other hand, there are already comming some new points wich almost everyone who did some games already is aware of so i will talk about them a bit.

6.)Range DDs are ridiculous overpowered in Slaughter while melees suffer
The gc wich brings the most blackmages or summoners to the match wins. Thats sad. I checked amount of BLM and SMN after the last games and oh snap, 95% the the dd players are using blackmage or summoner already. These two jobs always contributes 200-300k damage + 15-20 kills to a group. Dont get me wrong, surely there are plenty of melees who can contribute as much as a blm, but i think we all do clearly see that range dd is the way to go. Meanwhile melees get nuked while fighting the boss in the middle. As much as i hate melees as healer in frontlines, i feel sorry for them. Square, i cant believe that you test this game mode by playing it by yourself and saying its balanced enough to launch, wich is clearly not the case?!

7.)Map is oversized
That gamemode just doesnt fit on that size of a map. Really. You did add some teleporters to hide that fact, but ya, just way to big. You basicly could have done this gamemode in a wolfs den arena aswell. Add a boss in mid, add 72 ppl and let them fight each other.

8.)Zero Strategy required
Thats also a thing wich bothers me. The whole game mode needs zero strategy. Its just a zergfest of the gc wichever is dominating the data centre.

9.)Huge WHM mana problems while being in group B
Well, i am sure some of you fellow whitemages already noticed that healing in group B is extremely intensive and burn the mana pool fast. Problem is that you basicly dont have time to recover (Besides the two mana reg. spells you have), because the fight is going on all the time without a chance for rest. In all my games i already was sitting there with 100 mana, waiting 20-30 seconds for shroud of saints to get ready while my whole party is going to die. The other pvp spell that gives you mana is nice, but it does have a way to high cooldown for this situation so you can only use it once or twice at all. And i know bards can help, but thats not the solution. A possible solution would be to give healers a mechanic to recover more mana.

[Mutemutt]

9.)Huge WHM mana problems while being in group B

You're actually having mp problems? It seems like no matter how much I spam heals or how long, I never run out of mp. I spend entire matches spamming cure IIs, med I and II and SoS and the standard mana draw are enough for me to never run out.

[Vejjiegirl]

You're actually having mp problems? It seems like no matter how much I spam heals or how long, I never run out of mp. I spend entire matches spamming cure IIs, med I and II and SoS and the standard mana draw are enough for me to never run out.

I run out of mana all the time on B team, it gets to the point where I have to run away from my party just to get my mana to regen.

OP, don't speak like you speak for all of us. Because I love the new PVP.

The OP speaks for the majority of PvPers and has many valid points.

[Mutemutt]

I run out of mana all the time on B team, it gets to the point where I have to run away from my party just to get my mana to regen.

Weird. I'm honestly not exaggerating. The only thing I can think of is maybe other's tossing out more, expensive rezzes. The games I've had, deaths are so rare in the mob of 72 (at least the ones that don't resolve in all of us dying), that mainly just burn divine breath on whoever happens to die; plus, we're always packed with range. After that, it back to spamming. Feels almost like hunts actually.

Either way though, I think the mp situation is fine. The threat of actually running out of mp gives another dimension to healing in pvp.

[BunnyChain]

Weird. I'm honestly not exaggerating. The only thing I can think of is maybe other's tossing out more, expensive rezzes. The games I've had, deaths are so rare in the mob of 72 (at least the ones that don't resolve in all of us dying), that mainly just burn divine breath on whoever happens to die; plus, we're always packed with range. After that, it back to spamming. Feels almost like hunts actually.

Either way though, I think the mp situation is fine. The threat of actually running out of mp gives another dimension to healing in pvp.

There are quite a few factors to this: How many healers are in your party? What kind of healers are in your party or alliance? (I have no MP issues as a SCH at all.) Are healers from other parties helping with healing? How much is your party/alliance being targeted? Do you have bards helping with MP?
But yea, Mana Draw is actually being used now, I didn't get to use it much in Secure as WHM before.