White Mage vs Scholar - Why is White Mage lacking?

[Slib]

Not to mention: Full DPS scholar? Really? Might as well just bring another DPS class. A fully geared, accuracy melded scholar contributes maybe 300-350 DPS when they're permanently in cleric's stance. If you bring in another monk or dragoon, they'll do 500-550 or perhaps more. This is a 200-250 DPS difference which just having selene around cannot bridge. This approach is in the same category as solo tanking rather than bringing two tanks.

Because while you are doing 300-350 dps, your fairy is applying hps. Not only that, but you have lustrates as a nice panic button.

[Parawill]

I think we're going into every single piece of content now. Hehe. To be honest, I actually forgot how awesome White Mages are in 4-man content. I've been so accustomed to Holy spam that it just became second nature.

But I digress, when you're given a choice between Scholar vs. DPS for the sole purpose of DPS, I'd take another DPS class.

[firstsin]

So can we now agree after 20 pages of back and forth that neither SCH or WHM are superior to the other. Each have their own strength and weaknesses but in the end both compliment one another a lot more.

[Zedd702]

So can we now agree after 20 pages of back and forth that neither SCH or WHM are superior to the other. Each have their own strength and weaknesses but in the end both compliment one another a lot more.

Ha! I said this about 6, maybe 7 pages ago? lol

[firstsin]

Ha! I said this about 6, maybe 7 pages ago? lol

There is already another thread about this nonsense started already :/

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Because while you are doing 300-350 dps, your fairy is applying hps. Not only that, but you have lustrates as a nice panic button.

Still not a logical argument. If a white mage is solo healing, they'll need to pump out a bit more HPS any way. Yes, more HPS will bleed more MP. But the added DPS differences between a proper DPS class against a scholar's will also reduce the total encounter time by far more, requiring less total MP to maintain that HPS. Lustrate may or may not be a proper argument, it really depends on how well the white mage handles things.

[Yare]

People are aware of the fact that the top world and server hardcore raid teams have both whitemage and scholar, right? Whitemage must be good for something to keep his/her place in these top notch teams. It is understandable that some people like to one healing class over another. Until these top notch teams stop having a specific healing class to clear content, can we please just agree that they are both awesome healing classes?

[radioactive_lego]

People are aware of the fact that the top world and server hardcore raid teams have both whitemage and scholar, right? Whitemage must be good for something to keep his/her place in these top notch teams. It is understandable that some people like to one healing class over another. Until these top notch teams stop having a specific healing class to clear content, can we please just agree that they are both awesome healing classes?

+1 (......)

[Menae]

People are aware of the fact that the top world and server hardcore raid teams have both whitemage and scholar, right? Whitemage must be good for something to keep his/her place in these top notch teams. It is understandable that some people like to one healing class over another. Until these top notch teams stop having a specific healing class to clear content, can we please just agree that they are both awesome healing classes?

I'm not disagreeing with your point, but your logic is bad. I could argue that instead of white mages being good, the reason top groups bring a white mage is because shields don't stack well, or because of the limit break penalty for having more than one of the same class or even that it's not optimal to bring a white Mage but the best groups are so skilled that they get away with it and everyone copies them.

I don't believe any of those things, mind you; I am just arguing for argument's sake. I would love a buff to white mage mp or accuracy so that I could actually dps in raid downtime without feeling like I'm risking things later in the fight for no purpose, but it's a minor complaint.

[Wintersandman]

I prefer to play whm as the heals feel better I don't have to worry about stacks of something to be able to do a big heal and I cast less spells when healing a group. Succor just doesn't feel like it cuts it as an AoE heal when a WHM can easily do it in a Cure III, Medica or Medica II. Plus whm healing doesn't feel like such a snooze fest when I overgear the dungeons.