Yoshi P, please use future development time on content other than Hildibrand.

[Kuwagami]

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you're confusing things here.

Coil, Ex primals and dungeons have a high replayability. That's a given. Nothing to say on that.

Savage Coil however... Well, it doesn't bring more than regular Coil. You get nothing there once you have the title. Its replayability regarding the availability of regular Coil is non-existent. Same rewards, more difficulty (let's call it the path of least resistance).

People go there for the challenge, for the title eventually, but they have no reason to return there after (challenge beaten and title gotten) besides the fact that they might prefer it to regular coil, thus they're making the choice to redo it when there is nothing more they can get out of it.

That's the point. The Savage Coil was released with the "do it once and be done with it" mindset. Hildibrand... is kinda the same. Except for the fact that you can go there whenever you want with whoever you want and still beat the trials because its difficulty is way lower. However, once done, there is nothing more you can get out of it. It's done.


TL;DR : Though Savage Coil and Hildi's trials have nothing comparable in terms of difficulty, they have the same replayability : You have absolutely no reason from the game's view to go there again, you only chose to do so (for fun, for challenge, for whatever). Yet the game itself doesn't encourage you to replay it.

[ZanzhizExaverion]

Anybody who thinks Hildebrand should be scrapped for repeatable grinds should really look at themselves and see what they truly want out of a video game.

Hildebrand is the only comical break we have from the incredibly dull MSQ characters. I look forward to Hildebrand each and every patch because it's entertaining, over the top, and there is a lot of effort thrown into it to make it what it is.

Who cares if they're "bastardizing" characters from old games. You'd rather have Gilgamesh or Ultros be some boss in a random dungeon like Diabolos or Fenrir? I sure wouldn't.

If you honestly think a Savage Final Coil will keep you entertained I'd like to see all 4 of your Savage Turn 2 Titles.

[Battlewrench]

So what most of us want is more reason to replay the difficult content as well as more content with replay value hili or otherwise?

Edit : I would personally like to see something like hili but tied to a dungeon with some replay value. Maybe throw it in the such roulette for tokens after the quest chain is complete.

[Namasu]

If you honestly think a Savage Final Coil will keep you entertained I'd like to see all 4 of your Savage Turn 2 Titles.

I definitely will enjoy bashing my head in savage mode on my downtime with my friends regardless if I beat it or not in the future. It's just another way for me to enjoy the game outside of crafting/gathering/RP-ing. Why people freak out when they hear about Savage is something beyond me.

You can't honestly say how successful savage coil is until the dev team come out and tell us their analysis. You also don't see many groups on your server attempting this content because it was never catered to the mass population to begin with. In addition, Final Coil is still fresh and most players are still devoted to progressing/farming gears from it. Most raid groups including my own just don't have enough time and resource to tackle both Final Coil and Savage Second Coil at once, but like I mentioned in a previous post, with the gear upgrade from this patch, we are more encouraged than ever to revisit Savage Coil once we are finished with Final Coil.

Anyway this will be my last post seeing how futile my attempt was to change people's mind about Savage mode. Regardless of what people think, I will enjoy both Savage and Hildebrand and hope that both content receive many support from Yoshi and the dev team. I am just disappointed that the vocal forumgoers have once again shown prejudice toward good content that actually add replayability to the endgame.

[SekhmetM]

So basically TC is saying

[Archadius]

I love that the OP's petition only has 3 supporters lol

Seriously. Get out.

[Delily]

I'll add onto this comment.


I honestly would rather join the Ascians at this point or the Ishgardians.
I don't feel like a hero in the main storyline at all, just an errand boy and it angers me greatly that I have to go and save a useless character that had no purpose until now (And possibly after she is saved, she'll continue being useless).

I HATE characters like this, with a description like "Oh this character has a strong unyielding will, she'll do ANYTHING to help main hero", and then does jack sh*t throughout the entire game.


^See this SE? STOP IT...

Yes, this is the issue with the fact that our character is the Chosen One(tm)(c). We face the paradox in that while most of what we do is a waste of our talents, we're the only ones who can do it. I'm not too familiar with the 1.0 storyline, but I am given to believe that in it, PCs were not super special - there were a lot of people with the Echo, and our characters were just driven enough to rise to the top, but were there are plenty of other people around who are just as talented as we were.

[Dererk]

No more Hildibrand? Blasphemy I say blasphemy long live the Mandeville's.

He is an icon of FFXIV he's had his own Twitter page since 1.0 no I say NO. More Hildibrand I say More.

[Radacci]

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I don't think ppl oppose savage coil, they oppose the removal of Hildibrand...they aren't mutually exclusive, you know...
We can have both Hildibrand and savage coil. like i posted earlier, discontinuing Hildibrand, wouldn't mean that we'll get savage FCoB, instead.
they have development *slots* Hildi falls into *side-Quest* Savage, does not; as such, they aren't fighting each other over dev time.
3 month/patch, is plenty of time for both hildi and savage, so you don't have to stop one, to get the other.

[SirSaber]

Trolls using Hildi as a bait, how mischievous!!

Leave Hildi alone ! He's everyone's favorite Inspector !
And you're not forced to do his quests if you dislike him but asking to the devs to stop making more Hildi quests is outrageous!
You're egoisticaly asking to ban a community favorite storyline just because you yourselfs dislike it?

If 10000 want it why should the devs listen to 10 others ?