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    I got to say the more I hear about Japanese server rules, the more baffled I am. They sound terrible. Quit if things hit x timer... never use DF if you are not experience, force the use of the PF for new players... honestly... it sounds terrible (and cant even believe it is true.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogulbuk View Post
    I got to say the more I hear about Japanese server rules, the more baffled I am. They sound terrible. Quit if things hit x timer... never use DF if you are not experience, force the use of the PF for new players... honestly... it sounds terrible (and cant even believe it is true.)
    And being bullied because you are new is any better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogulbuk View Post
    I got to say the more I hear about Japanese server rules, the more baffled I am. They sound terrible. Quit if things hit x timer... never use DF if you are not experience, force the use of the PF for new players... honestly... it sounds terrible (and cant even believe it is true.)
    I play on a JP server, but this is a very peaceful method in my opinion. Rarely is the new player bullied. If he cause a wipe, experienced players will generally give a few pointers without bad mouthing him. 95% of the time, no one gets insulted or badmouthed. If its to the point where it's not possible to clear, someone will initiate the Give Up feature after 15 minutes. Not sure whats so terrible about this.

    I notice a lot of times the new players have this mentality of being the victim and world is against me, and a sense of entitlement for some reason. Its just culture on JP servers that Duty Finder is usually for quick kills.

    Most people in JP server join a DF expecting to get a kill. If one or two people is the reason the other 6 or 7 people cannot get their kill, what is wrong with pushing the give up button after 15 minutes? How is this bullying. We give the new person pointers. We try to help clear. But it is too bad to the point that we can't. Is the new person entitled to waste everyones time just because he is new? At least the JP servers will generally be friendly and help out all they can in that 15 minutes before the give up vote.

    Yes, there are the minority asses that badmouth, but that happens everywhere and is more a reflection of that specific person and not a group of people.

    Trials/Coils usually appear on the DF after they become steamrollable content. Before that they are usually pre-formed party only.

    I'm sorry about your experience with getting bullied, but I don't know why you would feel voting to Give up after 15 minutes is bullying or terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogulbuk View Post
    I got to say the more I hear about Japanese server rules, the more baffled I am. They sound terrible. Quit if things hit x timer... never use DF if you are not experience, force the use of the PF for new players... honestly... it sounds terrible (and cant even believe it is true.)
    I wouldn't go as far to say they're terrible. It's just a different culture. Over there, you need to abide by their rules, let them razz you a little, then they'll come around. It doesn't make it right, but it's the way it is. It's not this "server of peace and understanding" like some of these forum regulars would have you believe though. I had good experiences and bad experiences over there just like the NA servers. I've never encounter such ignorant discrimination towards a country of origin though, that was new.

    As far as the duty finder, the duty roulette clearly exemplifies what the duty finder was intended for. The western gaming culture accepts it because we are used to being tolerant of other individuals' backgrounds, religious beliefs, ethnicities, etcetera. It only makes sense we would accept a "melting pot" of a mechanic.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
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    I don't know which type of entitlement is worse. People who think they are not wasting time playing a video game, or people who think it's funny to waste people's time in a video game. I don't think the op is either.
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    Last edited by Stihllodeing; 01-16-2015 at 06:53 AM.