Buffing Warriors damage in Xpac?

[SpookyGhost]

2.0 WAR was significantly less complicated than post 2.0 WAR. You sat on 5 stacks and IB'd after big attacks. Unchained only if you had Infuriate or nothing big was coming up. Everything else sucked, it was Eye -> BB x inf. 2.0 WAR also scaled with gear, so PLD was outright better until WAR was overgearing content. Whether you realize it or not, 2.0 WAR required a lot of carrying by healers and it was a sad state of affairs. Thankfully things got fixed and we're sitting pretty - even if DRK were to be better than either PLD or WAR, all 3 would be viable for the content and that's all that really matters.

[Riyos]

So we already have the super defensive tank - PLD - specializes in massive defense and has more defensive CD's than the number of women Tiger Woods has slept with.... Downside - offensive power is very minimal compared to their warrior counterparts

And we already have the super offensive tank - WAR - Able to put out monster DPS for a tank. I watched Xeno put out 370 DPS on warrior with his i135 dreadwyrm axe. Downside, defensive set is nowhere near as potent as what the PLD has available

How then will DRK fit into this equation? I would like to see something that is inbetween the other 2 tanks, offering good survivability and decent damage, without being able to do either better than their counterparts. A jack of all trades, master of none type of deal.

A nice mix of stereotypes and misinformation. gj

[ZanzhizExaverion]

On pure speculation, Yoshi P has said that Dark Knight is going to be a Parry/Evasion tank.

From what I can gather from this, is that Dark Knight will be the most frail of the three jobs.

If you're going to base a class on dodging/parrying attacks, when they don't dodge or parry the attack, you're going to get hit, HARD.

I believe DRK will have an offtank stance that does do the most DPS over time, more-so than warrior. I assume there will be a middle ground between frailty and damage dealt. Perhaps DRK will have to really focus on DPS to deal more DPS than warrior, and Warrior will always be the middle ground for dealing DPS in terms of a tank, they'll always be effectively higher when not focused on solely DPSing a fight.

Traditionally, a Great Sword will be able to block an attack more effectively than a Great Axe due to it's wider area, so we can expect DRK's parry damage %s to be higher than both PLD, and WAR's parry % blocked.

This could also mean that DRK has a higher focus on the Strength stat to parry for even more damage reduced. If this is the case, then yes, Dark Knight will be dishing out the most damage of all three of the tanks, at the risk of being incredibly frail if not played correctly.

We can assume Dark Knight will have many forms of blind, accuracy reduction, and parry+ cooldowns to weave in, but again, all of these are CHANCE. They're not like Paladin's flat% or Warrior's flat%.

Of course however Dark Knight would be useless without a few large cooldowns to truly mitigate damage, which we can all expect it to have some kind of "Sentinel/Inner Beast", but perhaps it will force them to sacrifice damage to be able to pull it off.

All in all I expect this.

Tankiness 1v1 me Bro Boss -- PLD > WAR > DRK
DPS While focused on DPS -- DRK > WAR > PLD

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being the middleman.

Dark Knight is traditionally the polar opposite of Paladin.

[melflomil]

i think WAR will always have a spot on a team. PDL and DRK will have to duke it out for MT spot.

PDL can block physical damage and have cooldowns to mitigate all form of damage that be magic or physical and can also parry.

DRK will be a parry/evasive tank. Probably will have abilities to enhance parry (new ones and maybe keen flurry). Parry only works on Physical attacks. Evasion... not sure how that is going to work cause right now I dont think we can evade magic attacks. I swear though I've made magic attacks missed in the open world from low level mobs on my level 50 character. I'll have to check that when I get home. Also, I think that they will have abilities to directly mitigate magic damage like manawall or something.

[Zaft]

PDL and DRK will have to duke it out for MT spot.

Who is what tank position is very much situational. We use a WAR main tank on Bahamut because they can Inner Beast every single Tempest Wing, Flare Breath and Akh Morn.

[Izsha]

I love threads full of baseless assumptions, speculation and a dose of misinformation. They are always so helpful.

[stoxastic]

On pure speculation, Yoshi P has said that Dark Knight is going to be a Parry/Evasion tank.

Do you have any source for this? I have not heard anything about the actual details of Dark Knight regarding it being a Parry/Evasion tank. I hope it isn't true. Relying solely on RNG mitigation seems really shitty.

[melflomil]

It was one the slides when they fist introduced Dark Knight. Said in big bold letters. Evasive/ Parry tank.

[stoxastic]

It was one the slides when they fist introduced Dark Knight. Said in big bold letters. Evasive/ Parry tank.

You mean this slide?

http://i.imgur.com/huDMEBw.jpg

Doesn't say anything about parry/evasion...

[SpookyGhost]

You mean this slide?

http://i.imgur.com/huDMEBw.jpg

Doesn't say anything about parry/evasion...

Can't find the slides, but I believe it was one before this.