fate's for relic books

[Valkyrie_Faleva]

which fates are giving you trouble?
some do have pre req to spawn the next fate, some needs to be spawned via npc.

This is what I generally do

- que up the 3 dungeons (remember to click "in progress")
- teleport to all 3 fate zones to see if you can catch any, usually if no one is at the fate you only need less than 5 minutes to complete a fate
- http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Trials_of_the_Braves this site is awesome I use it to see which leves and fate pos I need and which leves I need in the future books. You can pre complete leves, just dont' accept the completion.
example: you are camping Seps, all your CCH leves/GC leves are at the near by town. You can hold up to 16 leves
- Order of your completion: Fates > Dungeon > 100 enemies > Leves, routine should be the follow: teleport to location of fates x3, if fate is up, go complete, none up? go kill 1 set of your enemies catagory, then repeat. Yes this is more gil spent, but I find this to be the most effecient way on this books, of course luck needs to be on your side

Hope this helps! GL!

(edited for 1k restriction)

[Yimiko]

There's absolutely no reason the fates for the books should have 90m+ respawn timers, other than just to screw with the players and make them not want to play this content at all. What is the point of frustrating players? It only causes them to give up and leave so they can better spend their time on something enjoyable.

On top of the horrible timers, the data center is poorly managed and the odds of getting booted the hell off mid fate are higher than they should be. Further, you need gold rank to get a fate complete counted, and for several of the fates, this requirement means you are very likely not going to get it unless you are active enough to screw others out of their completion. Fates seemed like they were meant to be cooperative, so why have the become so competitive?

Overall, this aspect reeks of very poor game design. If you want the point of the game to be to have fun and enjoy your time here, get rid of the needless frustration at every step.

[Maero]

book fates appear all the time when not needed but when you need them it takes hrs to spawn, lol.
But yeah the bigger issue has been the influx of Ninjas running to every fate and killing them off so soon.
So if you get a fate done in one area, chances are by the time you get to your fate in the next area and its up it will be too late

[Ilitsa]

I've now watched the Fate in which you escort a flame sergeant to Little Ala Mhigo pop up 9 times, still waiting on Taken to come up, other fates in the area have come up 3-4 times each as well.

[Quinlan]

Yeah it is really frustrating. I'm waiting on Everything's Better in E. Shroud and TWICE I've taken a quick break to use the bathroom and get a drink and come back and watched it end in like 20 seconds. The first time I was at the Sylph camp and by the time I raced there (keep in mind it JUST spawned) someone had AoE'd it to death.

The second time I was camped just near it in a safe area, got a drink and bio, and came back less than 1 minute into the FATE and someone already had it at 80%. The hell..

[xjia]

book fates appear all the time when not needed but when you need them it takes hrs to spawn, lol.
But yeah the bigger issue has been the influx of Ninjas running to every fate and killing them off so soon.
So if you get a fate done in one area, chances are by the time you get to your fate in the next area and its up it will be too late

Agree with that,

[Niwashi]

SE have said, they do not want players progressing too fast (too fast=before expan$$$ion!)

Then they should provide more timesinks that involve actually doing something. Of course, some people may still complain if they're really long timesinks, but it's certainly better than timesinks of standing around waiting. Waiting is the most frustrating of all timesinks.

[NationOfZealots]

I've now watched the Fate in which you escort a flame sergeant to Little Ala Mhigo pop up 9 times, still waiting on Taken to come up, other fates in the area have come up 3-4 times each as well.

This is where I turn my nose up at the response "clear other FATEs in the area first" because you see the same FATE 4 or 5 times and yours still wont pop.

"Taken" seems to be bugged but who the hell knows if it is intended or not. 50 minutes+ so far, and this was after I took care of Archers/Drakes for the atma book also.

Also, on the topic of Atma books, why are none of these FATEs able to be started from an NPC like a lot of others are? This would fix this waiting around for nothing business, involve a couple more steps even just to not make it so easy.... but it is rather silly that I have finished all other book content and can't progress because we have to wait around for nothing...

[Damanexor]

The system doesn't work -- they stated when they made this game that they were going to try to aim this at both the casual and the hardcore crowd.

THERE IS NOTHING CASUAL ABOUT SITTING IN ONE SPOT FOR 12 HOURS, HOPING ON A SPAWN! This is Final Fantasy XI Notorious Monster camping all over again!

We have to do this then for 2 more FATEs, then how many more books? All for just ONE upgrade?

The rest of the quest is fine, but this isn't fun or worth the effort.

At this point, it would probably be easier for me to do Coil of Bahamut and get a Wyrm Weapon.

I wish SE would put these FATEs on a separate timer and it make it more common -- around 15 - 30 minutes or so.

[Delta041]

I wish SE would put these FATEs on a separate timer and it make it more common -- around 15 - 30 minutes or so.

This would be the best solution. I would also like for these fates to be player activated rather than spawning instantly like most are. It would help people call out that they are ready and keep them from tragically timing out because no one needed them at the time.