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  1. #11
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    Izsha's Avatar
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    Izsha Azel
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    I enjoy endgame content and wish to perform at my best for it.
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    Which is a more better stat for PLD to have?
    He asked for what's better). Not " which stats are within a range of decent to good". Just because secondary skills don't make up 80% of you damage doesn't change the fact that it's worse. 2% less is still not better. How much a stat has to improve you to be "good" or "significant" or "huge" or "worth the gil" is subjective. I may think 2% is very significant, you may not. Subjective.

    Better is not subjective. Det is better.

    Accuracy, while helpful I prefer to use for crit as accuracy is only relevant in current endgame. I want a weapon I spend time and millions on to aid me in everything from a roulette dungeon up to t13, but some people prefer to min max hard line for coil and accuracy can work for that if you build your weapon to match your gear, but gear changes and so has coil 3x now so I don't bother with acc. If you shape your weapon around your gear and coil then acc can be bis. If you shape it as a general weapon then do crit for 2nd stat. Always useful, never wasted in any content.
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    Last edited by Izsha; 01-09-2015 at 06:10 AM.

  2. #12
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I melded mine Acc/Parry because it was cheap and at least somewhat useful. I'm going to go back and respec it for Acc/Det/Crit (I see no reason to max out Acc with tank gear having so much) since I have more $$ to throw at it.
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  3. #13
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    Aranea Asmodai
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    Parry is a trash stat, get some Det instead. /thread
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    Ark Aurelius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I melded mine Acc/Parry because it was cheap and at least somewhat useful. I'm going to go back and respec it for Acc/Det/Crit (I see no reason to max out Acc with tank gear having so much) since I have more $$ to throw at it.
    Even if its expensive as hell, meld parry/det. But don't meld acc/parry on the shield. Accuracy Parry is the same as the Ironworks Shield, which is ilv120, while the final stage in Aegis Shield is lv125 and will have the same exact stats (cept block rate/strength)
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  5. #15
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkAurelius View Post
    Even if its expensive as hell, meld parry/det. But don't meld acc/parry on the shield. Accuracy Parry is the same as the Ironworks Shield, which is ilv120, while the final stage in Aegis Shield is lv125 and will have the same exact stats (cept block rate/strength)
    My shield's already been respecced for crit/det. I'm leaving the accuracy on the sword, though. I already yanked off all the parry and am redoing those slots with crit/det. It shouldn't be expensive at all since tier II materia are easy to come by (I spiritbond while farming things like fleece that I use a ton of anyway) and tier III materia have tanked in value due to changes in spiritbonding (i90 gear no longer a 100% chance for tier IV). When I originally did my Novus, it was right around the point that it was released so most of the materia were really expensive, plus I was broke. I'm in a lot better position now to get it all fixed up the way I want it. ^^
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  6. #16
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    Potato Tomato
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    In my opinion. Zodiac weapons are for stacking sub stats so you can recognize the enhancement. So if you wanna go Det go for ruby rings with vitality materias instead. Parry is a good option when you wanna get survivability but it's RNG based, but once stacked, it's recognizable which is good for zodiac weapons.
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    Credor Beeman
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Trixxy View Post
    Parry is a trash stat, get some Det instead. /thread
    Is not. Parry must be maxed to shows good return. For pally, BiS parry (~620 with food) gives 23% to mitigation chance, with decent shield overall chance on passive mitigation will be >50% and dmg mitigation 31% (from shield) or 26% (parry).
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  8. #18
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    Sir Taint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Credor View Post
    Is not. Parry must be maxed to shows good return. For pally, BiS parry (~620 with food) gives 23% to mitigation chance, with decent shield overall chance on passive mitigation will be >50% and dmg mitigation 31% (from shield) or 26% (parry).
    How does that make it good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    How does that make it good?
    How good is cross-skilled Foresight? or Rampart?
    These skills are for not dying. With BiS parry - pally has statistical passive mitigation (parry + shield block) of every hit about 15%. This is better than Foresight (about 8% mitigation) and not very low from Rampart (20%). OK, is RNG, but has chance over 50% and high dmg reduction.
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  10. #20
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    Izsha Azel
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Yeah the total mitigation #s always sound good, until you realize most of that mitigation Come naturally from base parry and your shield regardless of your gear, and in exchange you gut your ENTIRE gear set to focus on parry (including lolfending accs). Opportunity cost is not to be just trivialized. That's 250+ crit/det you throw away and str on accs which make you fewer parries stronger not to mention deeps and threat.
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    Last edited by Izsha; 01-14-2015 at 01:27 AM.

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