We have finally come full circle, SMN's need help!

[Crevox]

SMNs can't do that so left at a disadvantage if on the AoE department.

How are we at a disadvantage? DoT cleave and your DPS skyrockets. You can AoE DPS with minimal MP cost, if any, thanks to Bane. I actually out DPS my BLM on T13 on the adds part of the fight, even though he's flaring. In every fight, you know when the adds are going to show up, so you can be totally ready with your Aetherflow, Garuda cooldowns, and other things when they show up. Flow your rotation, cooldowns, and MP management to be optimal when you need it.

We have tools. Make use of them, and we do very well.

No one isn't saying SMN is bad, but saying that making the DPS optimal is costing MP as a whole due to slow recovery.

Sure, we could push super tons of DPS, but only for a short time and we burn our MP. So, you don't do that. You maintain a steady, fair MP rotation that does good DPS, and then adjust as needed. For the duration of the fight, and the end, our DPS is good and competitive with other jobs. Just because you CAN push more DPS than everyone doesn't mean you should, you'll burn out all your MP. Learn to manage it.

Every fight has different timings when you want to burn more MP, less MP, shorter fights, longer fights... etc. You make the most out of your MP pool.

Then please explain how they were able to buff DRGs, MNKs, and WARs. Was it due to complaints? What you saying doesn't make sense Crevox. There is a reason why they are looking at fan feedback.....

Because those jobs actually needed buffs. WARs were a mess when they released. DRGs survivability sucked and they needed a small DPS boost. I don't remember what the case was with MNKs.

SMN is fine. You say we have MP problems, but we don't. You manage your MP and it's fine. For some reason you think we do bad DPS if we manage our MP well and do a nice sustained rotation, but we don't. Our DPS is good. There's no reason to buff us because our DPS will get even higher, higher than it should be. Like I said, we do have some MP issues on certain fights (T8, T11, *maybe* the end of T13) but if you manage your MP our DPS is still good. Every job has fights they suffer on, but again, they don't go on the forum complaining for buffs because of a few different fights they do slightly less DPS on. Like I said, I still push top DPS on T10-T12, only losing on T13 to a Monk. Why do you want to buff Summoner?

The ONLY reason we can give why our DPS is not even better than it is right now is because our itemization sucked this patch. That's just poor itemization, and even then, like I said, our DPS is fine right now.