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  1. #31
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    All my best posts will vanish!

    Better archive them and see if I can update em.

    Bestiary must still happen!
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  2. #32
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    Ulathskullsplitter's Avatar
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalfein View Post
    I'm agree with Fensfield, I don't think the game needed to be steamrolled completely but rather fixed. Right now when i see people riding bears, lions or some kind of unicorns (thundered hoof and fired horn) that has nothing to do about a Final Fantasy series or either see some primals being defeated in dungeon like Diabolos or Fenrir (which is a dark based element avatar by the way not ice) i really wonder what's going on with the game ........ at least 1.0 didn't have those incoherence.
    Well... For about the first year of 1.0 it had almost nothing to do with final fantasy. No classic jobs. No primals until ifrit almost a year after release. No chocobo mounts. One of the biggest fan complaints was it didn't feel like a final fantasy game at all.
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  3. #33
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    Onizuka's Avatar
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    Cloudio Onizuka
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    Deleting the old Lodestone = Deleting our old Memories

    Good evening.

    I just read the news of the deletion of the old Lodestone and wasn't expecting it. I remember that when the new Lodestone was being introduced, it was said that the old one would be kept online in an archived form for all the posts that were written there. I was glad when I read this, because it showed respect for us and what we wrote as a community.

    I thought that Yoshida and his team were aware that in the old Lodestone – that by the way I still consider superior to the new one for the way it was organised – there were several adventurers writing about their Journey in Eorzea. Back then I had more free time and I dedicated a lot of it to write about my Adventures. Still today, sometimes I just go back and read those posts, and look at the photos of past travels, explorations, fun times, and lost comrades.
    I also made this forum post in the old forums to cover all my entries, both for the lore-interested adventurers, and to have my entries in one list as I sometimes liked to read them again...

    Now, with this news that all those written memories will be erased, I feel like those like me that felt the soul and the good that the old Eorzea had, while the masses were bashing and insulting it, and who supported it from the start to the end, are kind of forgotten, as the dev team decided to delete all our memories.
    Of course, the memories live within us, etcetera etcecera... but writing those posts and communicating on the Lodestone was part of the play: time spent there wasn't time spent in Eorzea, and for a reason.

    I don't have much time to play anymore, I returned briefly for holidays, and now that holidays are over, I won't renew my subcription. Nostalgia is mainly what makes me return every now and then: see Eorzea again, and some of the old faces from Bodhum and Excalibur. Even if now it turned into “A Rush Reborn”, where everything is done with the “Haste” status effect on with most adventurers only thinking at the goal and reaching it as fast as possible, even if now the Thirteenth deity Randomness rules the aether, even if now I see it turned into “one of the masses”... I still enjoy the small things I enjoyed in the old Eorzea.

    As much as it is a virtual game world, in the past having this amusement proved a Great pastime in a few difficult moments of my Subliman life, when after returning from certain hellish places I really needed a diversion, and Eorzea was there. And for this, I'll always be grateful to those minds who created this realm.

    Thus, it deeply saddens my Subligar – which I just dyed gold a few suns ago – that someone else is deciding to delete forever mine and my old friends' posts of our old adventures, after all those talks about “gratitude to Legacy players”. Someone else has already decided for us and I cannot do anything about it.
    I cannot accept such a disrespectful decision, but I'm being forced to.

    If this message will ever reach Yoshida-san and the dev team: Thanks for remembering us!

    Cloudio Onizuka, true adventurer of the never forgotten old Eorzea
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    Last edited by Onizuka; 01-09-2015 at 05:20 AM.

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  5. #34
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    Fensfield's Avatar
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    Forra Descren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    Well... For about the first year of 1.0 it had almost nothing to do with final fantasy. No classic jobs. No primals until ifrit almost a year after release. No chocobo mounts. One of the biggest fan complaints was it didn't feel like a final fantasy game at all.
    Ah yes, because 'Final Fantasy' is nothing but a pile of repeating names and animals >.> The primals/eikons were in the game and a part of the setting from day one - Ifrit had a far more impressive introduction in the pre-Yoshida builds than it gets now even if the subsequent engagement with it was rather sad thanks to the strategy of including non-combat roles in the main storyline (and subsequent lack of development time to even try making something reasonable of that): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4A-ANiZ5Q&t=3m33s The others may not have been a part of things in what was able to be included as the game was shoved out, but Titan was in the game files at launch exactly as it appears now, and the Sylphs and Ixali made explicit references to Ramuh and Garuda. Moogles in v1.x had my favourite representation of the critters in any of the games as being the setting's equivalent of traditional-style fairies - the rebuild has practically gotten rid of that!

    Those complaints are rooted in, again, the fact that the game was launched incomplete. But even setting aside the old bit about how Wada and co' screwed everything over by trying to make money off selling boxes alone, there was plenty of Final Fantasy feel to v1.0 before the concerted effort to 'fix' it. Yoshida's statement that 'XIV v1.0 had no identity besides "Not XI"' has always been complete rubbish, for one thing: the entire game was one big homage to Final Fantasy Tactics. Its primary systems (stats, character development and so forth) closely matched the way Tactics' worked, and its setting not only shared the same sense of period and moral ambiguity as Tactics' but also made explicit reference to it on multiple occasions: the Ala Mhigan Corpse Brigade for instance was practically lifted wholesale from Ivalice. Hell, the v2.0 project actually removed a fair bit of the original design's identity in that regard and replaced it with these far shallower but more generally-known ones like job names and shoehorned-in famous locations. And many of the intended systems that we never got to see (such as Linkshells being able to use custom-Leves to create and post their own tasks for groups to compete over on their behalf) were pretty plain references to other games under the Ivalice/Tactics name.

    As far as I was concerned it felt plenty-like a Final Fantasy in the ways that counted; feel, setting, and story bringing a sense of familiarity whilst still attempting to come up with something thematically new. Or are you going to rag on VII for not sticking WHITE MAGE over Aeris' head and MONK over Tifa's, VIII for not launching into some tirade about living planets and sentient crystals, or hey, Final Fantasy I for not having chocobo or I-V for not containing a single moogle?

    For me, personally? I'd actually say v2.0 is less fundamentally in the spirit of Final Fantasy than v1.0 was. However horribly wrong things went v1.0 was trying to be a Final Fantasy; what we have now (whilst blessedly still deep enough to be interesting and perhaps fundamentally a good game) treads dangerously close to being the FF-equivalent of a themed Disneyland ride.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 01-10-2015 at 06:02 AM.
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  6. #35
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    I would love it if they added the real Riven road fight in game as a wandering minstrel recollection it was fun. Can't we have this it would also be cool if he could also give us a big alliance raid that centered around the battle of cartano where we have to survive for a set time till Bahamut is freed and 5 minutes after it be a fun endurance raid of back to back fights.
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  7. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Haha almost forgot about him... what happened? He does not play ARR? ;D
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...25-Poor-Rokien!

    Short story, we had to kick him because he was spamming to entire LS member including me. Wasn't that long before I had to move server with this as one of reason.

    I think he's still around using new nick. Just not as much as he did in 1.0.
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  8. #37
    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Hello,

    We understand the sentiment of everyone who actively used the old Lodestone blogs and the feelings that go along with the decision to shut it down, and I’d like to take a moment to explain the reasoning behind it.

    The equipment used for the old Lodestone server was purchased back in 2008 and due to the fact that it is now six years later, the support for the hardware as well as the drivers and update services for the software has begun to be phased out.

    While we’ve been doing our best until now to continue service of the old Lodestone, we’ve reached a point where replacements as well as large-scale software and system alterations would be necessary in order to keep it going from here on out.

    With the current situation in mind, we had been exploring if it would be possible to somehow keep everyone’s blogs intact; however, as a result of looking into various plans as well as the current page views and access numbers for the old Lodestone, we've decided to close the old Lodestone and utilize the freed up server racks and resources for new uses (for example, FFXIV game servers or the development of new content). We will be allocating our energy to provide players with more and more new services as we move forward.

    Though it might be an inconvenience, if you’d like to keep your blog entries we recommend that you save them to a local folder before the old Lodestone closes. We apologize to all the players who have been supporting us since 1.0 and hope for your understanding.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

  9. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    ...we've decided to close the old Lodestone and utilize the freed up server racks and resources for new uses (for example, FFXIV game servers or the development of new content).
    Best option tbh... +1
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  10. #39
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    Ah, so that's why. Thank you Camate for letting us know, it's much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    At the very least we can still see our old pictures and history on the new lodestone. We'll only be really losing the blogs.
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