Grind Camps

[TheVedis]

i love how everyone is quick to judge me cuz i actualy want them to do the research
sorry that i dont give handouts telling you where to go every 5 minutes people
at least i gave you a hint, too bad your too wrapped up in your own closed mindedness and wanting handouts you couldnt actualy see that

[MrSmiley]

i love how everyone is quick to judge me cuz i actualy want them to do the research
sorry that i dont give handouts telling you where to go every 5 minutes people
at least i gave you a hint, too bad your too wrapped up in your own closed mindedness and wanting handouts you couldnt actualy see that

What research. On what. With what statistics. Your just being vague again, claiming you know better but refusing to say what because your "selfish". Your also now assuming everyone who has responded against needs your help "every 5 minutes".

Your not helpful. Your not trying to be helpful either, as you are specifically avoiding saying anything actually helpful besides simple math we already know. Your being judged based off of your own actions, if you don't like that then either take new ones or just go away and be "useful" somewhere else.

[TheVedis]

What research. On what. With what statistics. Your just being vague again, claiming you know better but refusing to say what because your "selfish". Your also now assuming everyone who has responded against needs your help "every 5 minutes".

Your not helpful. Your not trying to be helpful either, as you are specifically avoiding saying anything actually helpful besides simple math we already know. Your being judged based off of your own actions, if you don't like that then either take new ones or just go away and be "useful" somewhere else.

notice how many people have pointed out what i tried to tell the guy?

the op wanted praise, not to get suggestions or even corrected on anything in what he wrote, he blew up in my face for even suggesting his numbers were off

i used my camp last night(its on the list, he just has way wrong levels and doesnt actualy call the camp its correct name, see, another hint omg!) and i got 35k sp in a single hour....at 4 ranks above what he suggests! omg, its amazing, but i must be lying right cuz i dont tell you flat out

all im saying, do the damn research yourselves too guys, dont expect to just be flat out told every detail of every little thing, and be thankful i say anything at all to help, even if you dont wanna call it helping
thats on you

[MrSmiley]

notice how many people have pointed out what i tried to tell the guy?

the op wanted praise, not to get suggestions or even corrected on anything in what he wrote, he blew up in my face for even suggesting his numbers were off

i used my camp last night(its on the list, he just has way wrong levels and doesnt actualy call the camp its correct name, see, another hint omg!) and i got 35k sp in a single hour....at 4 ranks above what he suggests! omg, its amazing, but i must be lying right cuz i dont tell you flat out

all im saying, do the damn research yourselves too guys, dont expect to just be flat out told every detail of every little thing, and be thankful i say anything at all to help, even if you dont wanna call it helping
thats on you

You suggested his numbers were off, then refused to say how. He's obviously doing research, these things get better by combining ideas and research of multiple people, that's why we make a list. You aren't contributing by saying its wrong then not how so.

That's cool but...We don't care if your not gonna say what camp. I'm sure someone else will find it and suggest a change, being a helpful contributing member, unlike yourself. Research happens with time and doing, then we share it as mentioned above. If your gonna do your research alone and not share it, then just shut up. No one cares about your secrets that you have no intention of talking about, we'll go ahead and compile our own without you, you seem to want that so why are you sticking around again?

Again, same as above two, these things are done through multiple people contributing, not just one. If you aren't going to contribute, no one cares what you have to say, nor is anyone going to be thankful for a vague "your wrong, I'm better". You haven't said anything worthwhile or anything we should have any kind of thanks for. If this offends you then good, go away. It's not helping anyways.

Other people will talk look suggest contribute etc. you obviously have no interest in being a helpful part of the community. What I really don't get is why you bothered to post at all given your attitude.

[TheVedis]

]You suggested his numbers were off, then refused to say how[/B]. He's obviously doing research, these things get better by combining ideas and research of multiple people, that's why we make a list. You aren't contributing by saying its wrong then not how so.

That's cool but...We don't care if your not gonna say what camp. I'm sure someone else will find it and suggest a change, being a helpful contributing member, unlike yourself. Research happens with time and doing, then we share it as mentioned above. If your gonna do your research alone and not share it, then just shut up. No one cares about your secrets that you have no intention of talking about, we'll go ahead and compile our own without you, you seem to want that so why are you sticking around again?

Again, same as above two, these things are done through multiple people contributing, not just one. If you aren't going to contribute, no one cares what you have to say, nor is anyone going to be thankful for a vague "your wrong, I'm better". You haven't said anything worthwhile or anything we should have any kind of thanks for. If this offends you then good, go away. It's not helping anyways.

Other people will talk look suggest contribute etc. you obviously have no interest in being a helpful part of the community. What I really don't get is why you bothered to post at all given your attitude.

actualy, i flat out told him why they were off, and then he whined up a storm
go back and read the whole post, you obviously havent

ive done the research, im out grinding every job i have every day for hours a day at various camps

but lets face, facts with this guide he wrote

its obvious he DIDNT do anything but look up mob ranks, and anyone who knows anything should see that

every single camp he listed above, all it does is take mob rank -10/15 and call it the rank of the camp
anyone can do that and call it a guide, but especialy in the case of grinding it just doesnt work

he woulda been better off posting the ranks of the mobs instead of saying what ranks you shoulda gone there

i have given you guys so many hints on how to change up this gudie for the better, and where to find the camps im mentioning, yet instead of looking at that, you focus on how i didnt give you DETAILS and flat out tell you what to do, and you cant get past that one fact

so why dont you go out, and find what im talking about, then youll understand what im talking about
and if your not willing to even try, then shut up and move on

[MrSmiley]

actualy, i flat out told him why they were off, and then he whined up a storm
go back and read the whole post, you obviously havent

ive done the research, im out grinding every job i have every day for hours a day at various camps

but lets face, facts with this guide he wrote

its obvious he DIDNT do anything but look up mob ranks, and anyone who knows anything should see that

every single camp he listed above, all it does is take mob rank -10/15 and call it the rank of the camp
anyone can do that and call it a guide, but especialy in the case of grinding it just doesnt work

he woulda been better off posting the ranks of the mobs instead of saying what ranks you shoulda gone there

i have given you guys so many hints on how to change up this gudie for the better, and where to find the camps im mentioning, yet instead of looking at that, you focus on how i didnt give you DETAILS and flat out tell you what to do, and you cant get past that one fact

so why dont you go out, and find what im talking about, then youll understand what im talking about
and if your not willing to even try, then shut up and move on

Many hints being "no your wrong" "one of the camps is better at lower level". You also assume everyone who is irritated with your right now somehow needs you to explain, but that isn't the point of this.

Lets face the facts, at least he is trying to be helpful while your are trying to not be. You give some vague "advice" while purposefully avoiding the details, then jump on your high horse and demand worship.

Ride your horse somewhere else.

[TheVedis]

Many hints being "no your wrong" "one of the camps is better at lower level". You also assume everyone who is irritated with your right now somehow needs you to explain, but that isn't the point of this.

Lets face the facts, at least he is trying to be helpful while your are trying to not be. You give some vague "advice" while purposefully avoiding the details, then jump on your high horse and demand worship.

Ride your horse somewhere else.

keep proving to me thaty you havent read my posts, please keep doing it

[Eekiki]

notice how many people have pointed out what i tried to tell the guy?

the op wanted praise, not to get suggestions or even corrected on anything in what he wrote, he blew up in my face for even suggesting his numbers were off

i used my camp last night(its on the list, he just has way wrong levels and doesnt actualy call the camp its correct name, see, another hint omg!) and i got 35k sp in a single hour....at 4 ranks above what he suggests! omg, its amazing, but i must be lying right cuz i dont tell you flat out

all im saying, do the damn research yourselves too guys, dont expect to just be flat out told every detail of every little thing, and be thankful i say anything at all to help, even if you dont wanna call it helping
thats on you

The OP was trying to help other people out of kindness, a concept that is obviously foreign to you. I can see where you'd think he's fishing for praise, since you seem to be the kind of person who craves hollow recognition for superficial achievement (for example, the string of rank 50 classes displayed in your signature). But that was not the OP's purpose.

You need to watch more My Little Pony. I think you would benefit from its message.

[TheVedis]

The OP was trying to help other people out of kindness, a concept that is obviously foreign to you. I can see where you'd think he's fishing for praise, since you seem to be the kind of person who craves hollow recognition for superficial achievement (for example, the string of rank 50 classes displayed in your signature). But that was not the OP's purpose.

You need to watch more My Little Pony. I think you would benefit from its message.

actualy i tried to help at first too giving a few suggestions
then he got all pissy
which is when i came to the conclusion he just wanted praise

again, people failing to read the whole post ftw

[Eekiki]

actualy i tried to help at first too giving a few suggestions
then he got all pissy
which is when i came to the conclusion he just wanted praise

again, people failing to read the whole post ftw

Nope.

Paraphrasing:

He made his list, your response was "You should change that, because it isn't optimal". He responded with, "Okay, what should I change it to?" You then said, "I'm not telling you because I'm selfish. Figure it out for yourself."

That was rude. He had a right to be upset with you.

Imagine you live in a desert, and you know where all the oases are. You come across the OP in the middle of the desert drinking from a mud puddle, and you say "Oh I know where there are much nicer water sources out here, but you'll have to find them for yourself and risk getting lost in the desert and dying of thirst."

Rude.