Hurray! Finally saved up 6mil for my personal house!

[ApolloGenX]

That's just it. This has turned housing into hard core content. Which makes me sad... and doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Ashkendor]

On Balmung they once sold out within 15 minutes of being added. Money was not the issue. Availability was. You're making assumptions.

The thread title specifically says that they just saved up the 6mil, though.

Gil was definitely an issue for them.

No more small house, my neighbourhood is empty. Full of small house, nobody buy the medium house in front of me and the large house at one side near my large one :/

I see people around my FC house pretty frequently. My personal house too. I usually sit down at the market board and craft; there's several people that do the same thing. Sometimes we sit and talk. ^^

[DoctorPepper]

Point is, there is nothing wrong with SE thinking players can afford medium houses. Anyone who actually tries to save up that kind of money will likely find a very easy way to do so. For me it was Demimateria and Ehcatl Sealant, even without that I could net ~500k/day off 30 minutes of basic Culinarian recipes... Even without crafting, the Duty Roulette, Challenge Log, and Treasure Maps were throwing Gil at me...

On my server the only way you're going to net 500k/day off cul is by sitting at the retainer all day long constantly adjusting your prices to compete with undercutters. Gil is easy to make I'll agree with that but cul really isn't the way to go unless competition is small.

[Sounders]

It was true when subdivisions were released as well. I don't know about 15 mins, but I know when I came home from work ~4hours later the smalls were all gone.

Since you're on Mateus I don't expect you to know what happened on Balmung, but please check your assumptions at the door. Even when subdivisions were added I heard from multiple people the smalls were gone before I got home from work. It's an availability issue, and anyone who doesn't expect to have this problem every time new housing is added is fooling themselves.

You should've expected this on a populated server. You know, that more people are playing.

[Aegis]

You should've expected this on a populated server. You know, that more people are playing.

Shouldn't they dedicate more server resources to Balmung then? Give us more housing wards etc. You know, since more people are playing.

Regardless, under the current system, supply will never reach demand. If you're not at your computer when the maintenance finishes, you don't get a house.

Again, housing is not supposed to be hardcore content, I've seen people camp Fafnir/Nidhogg with less tension.

[ofTheMoores]

Why don't they just make housing instanced or something? I don't understand why they had to do things the way they did.

Simply because it will cost Yoshi-P more money. SO, as an excuse, he let the filthy rich sink some of their millions into a system that only the rich can afford, all the while saying it was better for the economy.

The rich get richer and the poor (or late-comers) get nothing in FFXIV.

And I love how those filthy rich blow in here and talk about how fair the current situation is. Do you all know how you sound? "Let them eat cake" indeed. It's laughable.

[MageBlack]

Just wanted to clarify a few things for those posters that seemed to miss it.



1) Money was never the issue, availability was. Money can be earned if one is frugal enough. Money doesnt matter at all if all plots are sold by the time you can log in due to server congestion immediately following the patch that brought more plots in. Also, what do new players do? is it then their fault for not buying the game at 2.0 launch or earlier? I know that 2.5 will bring in/back many players as will 3.0. With the way the housing is done, there will never be enough for everyone let alone just for those who want one. To be truthful, I've had the money for a while but with an influx of new players and the continued issues on many servers, I wanted to bring it to light again.

2) The current housing system is fine for FC housing but not ok for Personal housing. A personal house should have been a separate instance available to every character once they met the requirements. First come first serve should never have been a requirement for a personal house. It has been done this way in many other games (FFXI, WildStar, WKC, etc)

3) I did not pick Balmung because it was highly populated, when I chose Balmung it wasn't even an unofficial RP server. Come to think of it I was on Fabul when they merged with Balmung so I didnt even have the choice... I have been here (except for a short stint) since 1.0. I do not RP but wanted a house to decorate, have chocobo stables, a garden and crafting stuff. The free company I am in is in the same boat because we are a smaller group of closer knit players. Each time we saved up enough for a house, it got sold. So the best I get is an inn room... I would love to color my chocobo and I wonder how this will affect the chocobo breeding for the chocobo racing coming with the Golden Saucer? Will I need a house for that too?

4) It was not a "surprise" that the plots were sold out. I knew once I heard how "Personal" houses were getting implemented that (especially due to the server I am on and its current state)if i did not have the funds for my house and log on within the first 10 min of the servers going live, I would not get a house. The OP was just to state that I finally had enough for a small personal house and as predicted, there are none to be had. Now, even if they add in more wards, they will also get sold out within min of them going live, either by people like me or people who buy multiple plots to sell them to other players and make some coin.

5) As for server capacity, it take up so many resources BECAUSE of the way its implemented. I know they cant design the game to cater to a single server but this is not the only server having this issue and it could have been avoided if it had been done differently, imo.

6) This is comparable to how the Market wards were initially set up. It was a disaster and ended up having to be completely overhauled (and still slightly broken, but better). If they can fix the market wards, I really hope they can fix the personal housing.

[Aegis]

3) I did not pick Balmung because it was highly populated, when I chose Balmung it wasn't even an unofficial RP server. Come to think of it I was on Fabul when they merged with Balmung so I didnt even have the choice...

This. We didn't choose Balmung, Balmung chose us.


/Besaid represent

[Tiggy]

The thread title specifically says that they just saved up the 6mil, though.

Gil was definitely an issue for them.

Seems you missed the point. Having the money was irrelevant since there wasn't even a house available. You can have caped gil and it doesn't mean anything if you aren't online the moment the servers come up after new housing is added. Seeing as the OP was on Balmung, and I specifically was commenting on the state of housing on Balmung, the user if they had done their research would have known well ahead of time that the only way to get a house would be to prepare themselves for the next wave of additional housing. Chances are they were saving this money up for weeks and the whole time there was never even 1 plot available to them.

Also, since you want to go back to what the OP posted. He also said this.

For me, money was NEVER the issue, availability was.

So what was it about the money again?

You should've expected this on a populated server. You know, that more people are playing.

I believe you confused my comment to you as a complaint. It wasn't. I was just pointing out that you were incorrect in your assumption about the state of housing especially as it pertains to Balmung. I'm well aware that I'll never have personal housing until something about the system is changed and have zero hopes or aspirations to have one because of it. Until that time they change the system to make it more available I'm hoping for improved guild house personal rooms.

Those assumptions.

[Pterois]

And for the people who have gil but can't be online when the servers come up due to work or other obligations?

i had work that tuesday morning when i was up at 3am (for 2.4)... i logged out right in front of lavender beds entrance knowing i would make the B-line straight for a house and started saving gil two months beforehand. I would sympathize if you were LITERALLY at work but if it was just to early for you to wake up then i would just say you were not dedicated enough lol. I have 4 kids and sleep is a very precious thing to me so i don't wanna here some i shouldn't have to story... people know the state of the housing market so you should have moved asap when you had the chance.

But i still think the housing situation is far from concluded, don't get me wrong, they still have lots of stuff to fix. BUT if you want to play a new housing market game... i occasionally see small houses open up for what ever reason (character deleted or they only bought the land but didn't build) if you keep your eyes peeled you will see one open up, just make sure you have the gil on hand at all times.