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  1. #51
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    Seattle Sounders
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    On Balmung they once sold out within 15 minutes of being added. Money was not the issue. Availability was. You're making assumptions.
    I think this is only true when the first personal housing came out. But when the subdivisions came out, it took a long time before all the plots were taken.
    If you still weren't able to get a good plot when the subdivisions were added, you will have the same problem every time new plots were added and you'll still be homeless.
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  2. #52
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by craig_meredith2003 View Post
    No small left on Leviathian either.
    Really? Ah shoot and after spending a few mil on gear i was gonna save up for one
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  3. #53
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sounders View Post
    I think this is only true when the first personal housing came out. But when the subdivisions came out, it took a long time before all the plots were taken.
    If you still weren't able to get a good plot when the subdivisions were added, you will have the same problem every time new plots were added and you'll still be homeless.
    It was true when subdivisions were released as well. I don't know about 15 mins, but I know when I came home from work ~4hours later the smalls were all gone.
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  4. #54
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    SE needs to do a few things to fix the housing situation on more populated servers.

    1. Add more functionality for the larger houses. The only thing a medium or large house offers over a small is 1 or 2 extra garden beds, respectively. Why bother when it's cheaper to buy multiple small houses for the gardens?

    2. Increase the item caps already. I know a lot of people or FCs, myself included, who refuse to buy a large house because it looks better to have a fully decorated small or medium instead of a sparsely decorated large.

    3. Make transferring plots refund a portion of the gil, can be 25%, 50%, 14%, or some other arbitrarily picked number. Many small home owners settle for their small houses until they somehow amass enough gil to buy a bigger house. Refunding speeds this up and might help move some people into larger houses and free up smaller ones.

    4. This is a personal thing but new maps please, not just a rotated copy. I find most of the large houses are inferior to smalls or mediums when it comes to scenery. Mist, guess which plots are always the first to sell. Those 3 small houses right in the front of the beach. Lavender Beds, that small house (plot 29 or something) in the corner of the map is essentially on an island connected by a small bridge with a nice view of the huge waterfall in the back; it's a quiet retreat home. The large house right next to it has a rock wall blocking the view and pretty much nothing else to offer. Plot 11 is a medium with a walkway wrapping around it with a small pond and a view of the lake and two waterfalls on the sides.

    5. And, of course, adding more plots is always a band-aid solution, but that just adds more empty divisions on less populated servers and does nothing to help people move into large houses on the more populated servers.
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  5. #55
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sounders View Post
    I think this is only true when the first personal housing came out. But when the subdivisions came out, it took a long time before all the plots were taken.
    If you still weren't able to get a good plot when the subdivisions were added, you will have the same problem every time new plots were added and you'll still be homeless.
    Since you're on Mateus I don't expect you to know what happened on Balmung, but please check your assumptions at the door. Even when subdivisions were added I heard from multiple people the smalls were gone before I got home from work. It's an availability issue, and anyone who doesn't expect to have this problem every time new housing is added is fooling themselves.
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    Why don't they just make housing instanced or something? I don't understand why they had to do things the way they did.
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  7. #57
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylentmana View Post
    Why don't they just make housing instanced or something? I don't understand why they had to do things the way they did.
    They promised non-instanced housing before they worked out the practicalities of it. It was obvious something was amiss when they started saying the first wave of housing would be for FCs only.

    Of course, we stupidly interpreted personal housing being completely seperate from FC housing to mean they would be different in some way.
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  8. #58
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    Pterois Volitans
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    i love having neighbors, really glad it isn't instanced, i'll literally sit around with them at the local market board and chat and craft for quite some time. But seriously, any person from this point on (or even at 2.4 drop) who does not have the gil on hand and ready when new housing is available (especially on such a populated server >.>) should expect this. Anyone serious enough to save up this kinda gil already knows about the housing situation and that it needs to be jumped on asap. Please be real people, it sucks... i agree, but you need to have a little foresight if you want to play house.
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  9. #59
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    Please be real people, it sucks... i agree, but you need to have a little foresight if you want to play house.
    And for the people who have gil but can't be online when the servers come up due to work or other obligations?
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  10. #60
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    But seriously, any person from this point on (or even at 2.4 drop) who does not have the gil on hand and ready when new housing is available (especially on such a populated server >.>) should expect this. Anyone serious enough to save up this kinda gil already knows about the housing situation and that it needs to be jumped on asap. Please be real people, it sucks... i agree, but you need to have a little foresight if you want to play house.
    No amount of foresight guarantees you a house. There are more people wanting houses on Balmung than SE can provide housing plots for. A new, casual* player has essentially no chance of getting a house. Housing isn't supposed to be be hardcore content.

    *Casual in this case meaning 'won't take a day off work to spam the login button to have a chance of being one of the lucky few to get a house once every 4 months when additional housing is released'.
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