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  1. #11
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    lordparanoia's Avatar
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    Myss Keta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LionKing View Post
    My group able to do 4 benu with our Healer has no need to DPS. If any group can't do 4 Benu without the healer have to DPS, your DPS group is weak. Regardless,each to their own, i guess.
    The first weeks it was hard to meet the dps check without a healer doing dps. If you clear it recently, without healer doing dps. It doesn't mean that other groups have weak dps but that you don't know what a dps check is because of you are totally overgeared for these fights.
    And to me, a scholar that doesn't do dps is not a good scholar. Because we should always support dps when we don't need to heal. You have some moments in all the fight that Can be solo healed.

    Anyway in t13 a miss only miasma if i'm not behind bahamut.
    I have more or less 510acc
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  2. #12
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    Kaane Moka
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    We have been farming t10 to t12 after the second week after the released. Been there done that and our Healers never have the need to DPS. Even now, the only i130 piece I got is the weapon due to RNG is not so happy with me. I might be get carried in term of the DPS due to the fact I am the least gear among all. However, overall, in term of our DPS performance, there is no need for healer to go DPS.
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  3. #13
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    Staris Fate
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The accuracy relic is nice but is obviously very time consuming.

    Runner ups to hitting cap (from memory could be off slightly)
    i110 crafted Chest with Acc + 4 i90 Accessories Vit+Accuracy
    i110 crafted gloves with acc + 5 i90 Accessories Vit+Accuracy
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  4. #14
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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I'm pretty sure that the accuracy growth between i110 and i130 is so low because it was SE quietly attempting to nerf Healer DPS in endgame content... and I do say "attempting", because it has obviously failed because of Crafted gear.
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  5. #15
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by lordparanoia View Post
    Anyway in t13 a miss only miasma if i'm not behind bahamut.
    I have more or less 510acc
    Positioning has nothing to do with DoM spell accuracy. If you miss Miasma at all in T13, it's because you missed regardless.

    515 is the accepted caster ACC cap for T13.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Positioning has nothing to do with DoM spell accuracy. If you miss Miasma at all in T13, it's because you missed regardless.

    515 is the accepted caster ACC cap for T13.
    well, this is what i noticed. I could be wrong as you say.
    I think that Miasma, anyway, requires higher accuracy. Because I never have problem with Bio 2 and Bio (and also Aero).
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordparanoia View Post
    well, this is what i noticed. I could be wrong as you say.
    I think that Miasma, anyway, requires higher accuracy. Because I never have problem with Bio 2 and Bio (and also Aero).
    It's because a skill must have initial potency to miss. Bio II and Bio will always hit, as will Shadow Flare I believe. Aero, Miasma, Energy Drain, and Ruin/R2 can miss.
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  8. #18
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    Staris Fate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    I'm pretty sure that the accuracy growth between i110 and i130 is so low because it was SE quietly attempting to nerf Healer DPS in endgame content... and I do say "attempting", because it has obviously failed because of Crafted gear.
    Possible, the accuracy cap for t9 was exactly (not even 1 off) full i110 (not crafted) gear + accuracy novus + 30 Food.

    But they did add crafted 110 gear..... So It is also possible the accuracy difference is to force the use of crafted gear to hit cap (helping other aspects of the game, crafting / gathering).

    Or (third option) they have no plan and just do random shit. I mean....i90 gear had no accuracy lol.
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  9. #19
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Possible, the accuracy cap for t9 was exactly (not even 1 off) full i110 (not crafted) gear + accuracy novus + 30 Food.

    But they did add crafted 110 gear..... So It is also possible the accuracy difference is to force the use of crafted gear to hit cap (helping other aspects of the game, crafting / gathering).

    Or (third option) they have no plan and just do random shit. I mean....i90 gear had no accuracy lol.
    The use of Crafted Gear to hit Accuracy should allow it, at the expense of something significant. For example, using Crafted i110 to hit the cap greatly reduces a Healer's possible maximum Mind and doesn't give them enough Vitality to hit the HP Caps of Final Coil. The i90 Accessories are what really broke everything. Compared to i110, using crafted i90 removes 25 Mind and allows a healer to have 5 accessories with 16 Accuracy, 15 Vitality, and some whatever stat melded to them. Each. For barely any loss in healing performance, this can be combined with food to get 488 Accuracy with non-crafted i110 body pieces. From there, all one would need is a Relic Weapon with Accuracy melded to it or just a single i110 left side piece capped on Accuracy to hit enough Accuracy to have 95%+ accuracy in T13. It's stunts like this that beat Turn 13 in the first week... and make me very scared of the possibility that Crafted i110 accessories could be even more powerful.
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    Last edited by Donjo; 01-07-2015 at 06:21 AM.

  10. #20
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    Mighty Miggles
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Hmm ok thanks for all the opinions. It really helped a lot.

    I am going to save up for the i110 crafted accs (omg ironworks necklace and earrings suck so bad with pie and ss) and see what I can do.

    Indeed, I only want the acc for less miss on Miasma (for some reason I never missed my Aero or maybe I never noticed it missing) so I probably won't need to go all out.

    And no sir you won't catch me dead with any relic weapons either. So accs it is. Sigh, more spiritbinding for me
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