Question from a NIN to our FCOB tanks

[Sapphic]

I know . . . and I said that if WAR is putting up the debuff NIN runs out of TP faster. NIN is by no means the slowest DPS to go TP dry, it runs out at the same speed as MNK.

Sorry, but no, MNK will burn through TP faster than NIN, even moreso if use fracture during b4b.

NIN runs out of TP the same speed as MNK, and if WAR is putting up slashing debuff (50 tp for NIN) they will run out of TP faster, not slower, AE costs 70 tp.

If you are talking about FCoB, there is no reason to AE as a NIN at all. t12? Let the BLM and BRD AE the bennus low in 3rd phase, single target the rebirthed Bennu with the MNK to drop it at a time you get the next rebirth whilst its near dead (BLM+BRD should have finished off the next Bennu by then) So its constant. T13, you dont want to stack that many to make NIN AE worth doing, better served single target. t10 and 11 even less reason for NIN AE.

[SpookyGhost]

Sorry, but no, MNK will burn through TP faster than NIN, even moreso if use fracture during b4b.

Don't play MNK or NIN, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYhWkx_Xwpg

[SeraviEdalborez]

Don't play MNK or NIN, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYhWkx_Xwpg

Firana isn't using Fracture, which will THEN make MNK bleed TP faster than NIN. Which is why you Goad the MNK.

If MNK doesn't use Fracture, then there's not really anyone worth using Goad on unless you want to cycle everyone and not have a BRD.

[Lavieh]

Firana isn't using Fracture, which will THEN make MNK bleed TP faster than NIN. Which is why you Goad the MNK.

If MNK doesn't use Fracture, then there's not really anyone worth using Goad on unless you want to cycle everyone and not have a BRD.

Why would a MNK use Fracture? PLD and WAR will also run out of TP before a MNK/NIN/DRG/BRD need TP if they are utilizing their class properly and DPSing.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Why would a MNK use Fracture? PLD and WAR will also run out of TP before a MNK/NIN/DRG/BRD need TP if they are utilizing their class properly and DPSing.

Because a NIN is there to give them Goad, is why they'd use Fracture. Circular logic is circular, but that's kind of just how it is.

PLD: In progression probably not unless you are clinically stupid about spamming Shield Lob 10 times. Stoneskin utility is TP regen as well.
WAR: Has never asked for it before our MNK. See above for non-stupid TP use (don't spam OP/'hawk)

Our BRDs will usually Paeon for themselves long before anyone else needs it, so nobody else needs Goad. Why not give it to MNK to let them milk more DPS? It's a TP loss under normal circumstances, but with a NIN it can be sustained.

[Lavieh]

Because a NIN is there to give them Goad, is why they'd use Fracture. Circular logic is circular, but that's kind of just how it is.

PLD: In progression probably not unless you are clinically stupid about spamming Shield Lob 10 times. Stoneskin utility is TP regen as well.
WAR: Has never asked for it before our MNK. See above for non-stupid TP use (don't spam OP/'hawk)

Our BRDs will usually Paeon for themselves long before anyone else needs it, so nobody else needs Goad. Why not give it to MNK to let them milk more DPS? It's a TP loss under normal circumstances, but with a NIN it can be sustained.

My tanks end encounters inbetween 300-400 DPS, they ask for Goad all the time. MNK gets Paeon at the same time I do but in T10/T12 he will use rockbreaker when there are two targets to hit, so he typically gets my first goad then but I see no reason to use Fracture.