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  1. #21
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    ChiiSoSeriouz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i dont like the idea of a palading wearing a woven robe... and tanking like with plate armor.. with is just ridiculous

    this kills just the ideal/immerson for me personally..
    This is precisely the point of restrictions. Yoshida has already said in response that there is a certain image they would like to keep. Having tanks in healer gear or vice versa negates that. There's really nothing to debate, the system is working as intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz View Post
    This is precisely the point of restrictions. Yoshida has already said in response that there is a certain image they would like to keep. Having tanks in healer gear or vice versa negates that. There's really nothing to debate, the system is working as intended.
    You should never close the book on a debate as there is always more than one facade to a subject.

    While I do agree with you that a tank shouldn't wear healer gear and vice versa, I still believe classes should be allowed to wear a bit more than what they were intended to wear. For exemple... I want my healer to look like Louisoix but that would be impossible since he wears heavy metal boots that can only be wore by melee dps/tanks. Such a minor item wouldn't destroy the immersion since it's being worn by NPCs but is still restricted for the ''intended vision''. Another example of my distress would be the pvp gear. I love the black mage suit which is obviously a caster robe but a summoner may not wear it because it is restricted by job and not discipline. Such gear thus remains inaccessible despite its intended job being in the discipline of magic. One last exemple would be the monk gear announced of 2.5. Most monk gear can be worn by ninjas already in the game and clearly doesn't break the immersion but this next set is probably restricted to monk which is a shame since I wanted pieces of that set for what l had envisioned for my own character.

    My request is not to destroy the immersion by allowing everyone to wear everything. That is not what I requested. What I wish for is to remove job restricted gear while keeping a logical approach to what characters can and can't wear by definition of their role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i dont like the idea of a palading wearing a woven robe... and tanking like with plate armor.. with is just ridiculous

    this kills just the ideal/immerson for me personally..
    Except that you can already do it, "killing the immersion" isn't a challenge at all if people really want to, snowman outfit, moogle outfit, any ig event outfits
    Do you want a paladin tanking in a robe? no problems, lv1 vanity stuffs, wedding robe, halloween robe and I'm probably missing a lot more.

    The "This would kill game immersion" and "This would make jobs looking less FFish" are just pathetic excuses and false arguments since you can already do it now.

    Back in the 1.0 times, you could had a lot of awesome and very unique looking outfits for your character since you could wear anything, this is why some 1.0 NPC like Papalymo can wear heavy gauntlet as a caster.
    Just bring it back SE, it was fun and it is already in the game lore ^.^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I remember the devs said the restriction was set to no "confuse players". Like a white mage wearing paladin gear for example.
    well honestly that seem like an ok restriction for both QoL and ingame practicality, mages shouldnt be clunkin around it big-ass armor, nor should tanks be wearing rags, unless entirely for comedic purposes that are well thought out, but as per the OP specific example, yeah, if Im already wearing leather or light clothes thos whether I at least look like im wearing parachute pants as a ninja or whatever is no bother to me.
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    I take what I like and I like what I take!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i dont like the idea of a palading wearing a woven robe... and tanking like with plate armor.. with is just ridiculous

    this kills just the ideal/immerson for me personally..

    (Armor Under Robe)

    (Note* This is a list of Non-Dated Items)

    Woven Robes/Robes Tanks can Wear
    Crescent Moon Nightgown
    Eerie Robe
    Glacial Coat


    Hempen Halfrobe
    Custom Made Robe of Casting
    Custom Made Robe of healing
    Hempen Cowl
    Hempen Action
    Amateur's Dalmatica
    Hempen Robe
    Cotton Cowl
    Aetherial Cotton Cowl
    Aetherial Cotton Dalmatica
    Cotton Dalmatica of Gathering
    Aetherial Cotton halfrobe
    Cotton Halfrobe
    Aetherial Cotton Robe
    Cotton Robe
    Aetherial Velveteen Cowl
    Velveteen Cowl
    Flame Private's Robe
    Serpent Private's Cowl
    Storm Private's Dalmatica
    Aetherial Velveteen halfrobe
    Velveteen halfrobe
    Aetherial Linen Robe
    Linen Robe
    Linen Cowl
    Aetherial Linen Cowl
    Aetherial Woolen Robe
    Woolen Robe
    Tattered Robe
    Woolen Gown
    Aetherial Felt Robe
    Felt Robe
    Woolen Cowl
    Aetherial Woolen Cowl
    Vintage Robe
    Paragon's Gown


    Silk Dresses, and other Things Tanks can Wear
    Starlight Tunic
    Lord's Yukata Green, Whiteflame, Blackflame, Blueflame, Whiteflame, Blue, Grey
    Lady's Yukata Red, Black, Pinkfly, Red, Redfly
    Spring Dress
    Sweet Dream Tunic
    Gown of Eternal passion
    TailCoat of Eternal Devotion
    Highland Smock
    Moogle Body
    Sailor Shirt
    Hempen Camise
    Best Man's Jacket
    Taffeta Shawl (Reskin of a Mage Only item)
    Valentione Apron



    Swimsuits Tanks Can Wear
    Striped Summer Top
    Striped Summer Halter
    South Seas Talisman
    Black Summer Halter
    Coronal Summer Halter
    Green Summer Top
    Coeurl Beach Halter
    Solar Summer Top
    Red Summer Halter
    Blue Summer Halter
    Lunar Summer Halter
    Lunar Summer Top
    Green Summer Halter
    Solar Summer Halter

    Sea Breeze Summer Halter

    Funny thing that I noticed tanks can wear
    “I put on my robe and wizard hat”
    Eerie Hat
    Hempen Hat





    Quote Originally Posted by Hito-Shura View Post
    See? I wouldn't mind that and those are actually pretty good ideas.

    Changing the current system to DoW and DoM which will allow more freedom but still restrict the different discipline like many other games is what I had in mind at first. Either that or create craftable/dyable versions of the same armors... But considering the amount of work that would require, I doubt it'll ever happen.



    Good idea too! Glamour should be a reward for something. Either through currency/craftable or through certain questings/leveling up.

    At least restrictions would be lifted somehow.
    I agree, the amount of clothes a mage can wear is dangerously low.
    1. Tank Glamours a Custom Made Robe of Casting and Hempen Hat
      Perfectly Acceptable 10/10 tank

    2. Mage Glamours a Hempen Tunic
      Mass Confusion, Lalafells are crying, players are quiting, Immersion is broken!

    Tunics and Tabards or Leather Armor that can be worn by Mages
    None

    Chain Mail that can be worn by Mages
    None

    Plate/Scale Mail that can be worn by Mages
    Light Steel Galerus (Reskin of Disciple of war gear)

    Heavy Armor that can be worn by Mages
    None




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    Example of a Tunic
    Example of a Tabard

    Total Number of Body Gear that can be worn Per Job

    Black Mage- 242
    Dragoon- 320
    Monk- 286
    Ninja- 286
    Paladin- 354
    Scholar- 242
    Summoner- 242

    Warrior- 354
    White Mage- 242
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    Last edited by Vejjiegirl; 01-02-2015 at 12:16 PM.

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    I just want to add my word on this subject that I totally agree and desire a less restrictive glamour system across all classes/jobs.

    The obvious:
    AF gear is locked to the class/job;
    Race gear is locked to the Race;
    Gender gear is locked to the gender;

    but etc./misc. is unlocked and free for glamour across the entire armorie board. Like many of the gear sets you can obtain through the HM dungeon runs. Those pieces are designed strictly for glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    I really wish SE would put this on the cash shop ...

    Had a ton of life stuff happening around Halloween and if I had known about this I'm sure I would had signed up for a month :[

    Would go perfectly with my Mogblade and I'm sure w/e the Dark Knight's weapon will look like. :'[
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    Total Number of Body Gear that can be worn Per Job

    Black Mage- 242
    Dragoon- 320
    Monk- 286
    Ninja- 286
    Paladin- 354
    Scholar- 242
    Summoner- 242

    Warrior- 354
    White Mage- 242
    Vejjiegirl, I have always agreed with your views on glamour! And these numbers are frightening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz View Post
    This is precisely the point of restrictions. Yoshida has already said in response that there is a certain image they would like to keep. Having tanks in healer gear or vice versa negates that. There's really nothing to debate, the system is working as intended.
    Tanks can ALREADY be in healer gear. It's just healers/mages that are don't get access to the heavy armor. The unbalanced system is clearly beyond his and your comprehension.
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    Because others disagree, its not
    pathetic excuses
    or
    false arguments
    Real facts from the person that decides these things.

    Taken from Live letter XVIII


    Q22: Are there any plans to remove restrictions on the glamour system (unable to glamour gear that the job/class cannot equip)?

    A22: Unfortunately, there’s a certain image that we would like to sustain for FINAL FANTASY XIV. We feel that it would confuse the new players if they see casters in heavy armor and tanks in mage gear.

    However, if there’s any specific gear you would like to glamour, we will consider those requests individually so please request them through our official forums.
    .

    The search function is there for a reason. There are many existing threads on this topic. It's getting quite annoying.
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