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    Sileas Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    It's not about playing dumb it's about keeping up DPS with other classes so our raid doesn't wipe on DPS checks. Progression Statics are simply not taking Summoners and opting to maintain the optimal static of BLM, NIN, MNK/DRG and Bard.
    You can beat both t10 and t11 with 2 ha weapon dps and 2 soldiery weapon (one of them the smn) by at least 40 seconds from enrage. Dunno about t12 and 13 cause we arent on i115 weapon or below anymore but I dont see how smn is a liability in dps checks when everyone has the required gear and performing as best as they can be. Havent seen too much of t13 though.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    You can beat both t10 and t11 with 2 ha weapon dps and 2 soldiery weapon (one of them the smn) by at least 40 seconds from enrage. Dunno about t12 and 13 cause we arent on i115 weapon or below anymore but I dont see how smn is a liability in dps checks when everyone has the required gear and performing as best as they can be. Havent seen too much of t13 though.
    Because that's already outgearing what's truly required. What you're basically saying is "If you're willing to wait for progression, SMN does okay." To put it in context, NIN cleared T13 before either DRG or SMN.
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    Divine Gate
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    You can beat both t10 and t11 with 2 ha weapon dps and 2 soldiery weapon (one of them the smn) by at least 40 seconds from enrage. Dunno about t12 and 13 cause we arent on i115 weapon or below anymore but I dont see how smn is a liability in dps checks when everyone has the required gear and performing as best as they can be. Havent seen too much of t13 though.
    Can beat both T10 and T11 with just HA weapons using a SMN, with 40 seconds to spare. My first T12 win was with all HA weapons except the Monk who just got the Tombstone from T11 so they upgraded.

    T13 has the same DPS check as T12, you just need to meld some VIT accessories with only i110 body pieces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Because that's already outgearing what's truly required. What you're basically saying is "If you're willing to wait for progression, SMN does okay." To put it in context, NIN cleared T13 before either DRG or SMN.
    SMN does take a bit longer to map out a fight to make the most of your resources, VS pew pew BLM. This would be especially difficult while figuring out mechanics on top of things. Other than that, BLM and SMN were fairly close damage wise with only i110 crafted.
    Because FCOB has very limited movement, I could see why BLM would have been preferred for progression.
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    I do hope things are addressed for the expansion. As people reach i131 the difference becomes very noticeable. Luckily it's not an issue for any current content.
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