8 Warriors without Defiance isnt as deadly as 8 whm's all fully gear'd in Pvp gear, in the same spot, Cleric Stance all spaming holy, with DS Medica 2 and regen with stoneskin and protect.

or 8 Sch's Dpsing their hearts out in Cleric Stance not worrying about healing since the pet takes care of that.

Thats why they banned Cleric Stance.