[Theory] ACN removed, SMN remade

[Akiza]

Any dps simulator will show that the longer the encounter the lower the Summoner's dps will be. There is something inherently broken with the Summoner's design.
Final Fantasy XI- Summoner's game play was fun but was useless in endgame content because it was a nerf healer and is poorly optimized
Final Fantasy XIV-Summoner's game play is boring and has become useless in high end raiding content because of broken class combination and poor optimization.

Good job SE you have successfully found two broken game play styles for the Summoner.

A good way to fix the Summoner is to take the Summoner from Final Fantasy Tactics and adapt it to this game.

[ChazNatlo]

A good way to fix the Summoner is to take the Summoner from Final Fantasy Tactics and adapt it to this game.

Been a while since I played Tactics, but I seem to recall the summoner just being an AOE nuke with some healing spells with freindly fire turned off.

[Sylve]

Been a while since I played Tactics, but I seem to recall the summoner just being an AOE nuke with some healing spells with friendly fire turned off.

You recall correctly.
Hell, the only difference between the summons was purely Elemental. Bombs on the field? Don't cast Ifrit. Weak to Lightning? Throw down Ramuh.
I don't understand why people think the Tactics Summoner would be a good thing. It'd be kinda pointless.

TO be fair to the critics though, the Summoner doesn't feel very attached to his/her Egi. Just Sic it on Target and then DoT away.
What i feel needs to happen, is for the UnAspected nature of Arcanist spells to alter Elemental and visual based on which Egi you had out, and have the Summoner cast some spells THROUGH the Egi. Like for example Shadow Flare, Have it be a raging inferno with Ifrit, an earthquake with Titan and a cyclone with Garuda.

Just my 2gil.

[Shikiseki]

You recall correctly.
Hell, the only difference between the summons was purely Elemental. Bombs on the field? Don't cast Ifrit. Weak to Lightning? Throw down Ramuh.
I don't understand why people think the Tactics Summoner would be a good thing. It'd be kinda pointless.

TO be fair to the critics though, the Summoner doesn't feel very attached to his/her Egi. Just Sic it on Target and then DoT away.
What i feel needs to happen, is for the UnAspected nature of Arcanist spells to alter Elemental and visual based on which Egi you had out, and have the Summoner cast some spells THROUGH the Egi. Like for example Shadow Flare, Have it be a raging inferno with Ifrit, an earthquake with Titan and a cyclone with Garuda.

Just my 2gil.

heck even Ultima Weapon felt more Summoner-y than our JOB >_>;