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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    No it's bad.
    Thats your opinion.

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    World 3rd PLD melded DEX and stated it was for extreme progression and he wouldn't use it otherwise. Obviously he understands its value.

    World first and second did not use DEX builds.

    It takes 40 points of dex to increase block/parry rate by 1%. And most consider parry stacking to be useless beyond progression.
    Thing is, you can quite easily get 40 DEX. Just the wootz cuirass alone probably. The cap for parry, acc, crit is 41 on the chest alone which means DEX shouldnt be too far off.
    Blocking and parry are 2 different things. Increasing blocking AND parry by 1% means they both go up. Blocking is also stronger than parry and is checked first. If they both went up by 1%, then that means in total, it is 2% up. And only for 40 DEX points? You can probably meld 35 just from the chest.

    Thing is, if you also meld DEX on your novus/ nexus, you can quite easily get massive boost. The alternative as I said before is using CRIT or DET, which are C tier stats for Paladin. If 40 points split between CRIT and DET will give you 2% extra dps (a big assumption) than as a paladin you went from 100-150 dps to 102-153 dps. That is hilarious by any measurement. As I said before, if you want to increase pld and war dps, you go with strength, you dont go with C tier stats like CRIT and DET. A warrior wielding full strength can do 300 dps which is quite nice. But do keep in mind that monk, drgs and ninja's can do over 550 dps now. A paladin wouldnt even get 200 dps even with full strength gear most likely, let alone a NON strength but with CRIT and DET build. Thats a paper tiger build.

    People often use the claim that it makes the tank "hold hate easier". Problem with that assumption is that you have trouble holding hate in the first place. Paladin hate meter scales extremely well and gets increased every so often patch. That 2 dps increase is what you are talking about going DET and CRIT while sacrificing VIT, DEF and MAG DEF. That is a hilarious trade off. If you trade off against VIT, it has to be parry and blocking.
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    Last edited by Truedragon; 12-23-2014 at 09:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truedragon View Post
    If they both went up by 1%, then that means in total, it is 2% up.
    It's totally not how you calculate probabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    It's totally not how you calculate probabilities.
    Understood. I just simplified it by adding it both up. I know it is less than 2% if both blocking and parry goes up by 1% which is probably an error of his account.

    However, if 40 points of DEX increases both blocking and parry, than it is not as bad as he makes it out to be. 40 points is pretty easily gotten.
    The chest and pants probably around 30~35. So getting 80 from the whole set isn't that hard. And if you are really freaky and want to experiment, add another 40 from the novus.
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    Last edited by Truedragon; 12-23-2014 at 09:56 PM.