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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Honestly, The Au Ra would only be threatened by the ishgarudians because of their "Half-Dragon" look. Thus probably why Yugiri is in desgise currently. But rememember as well, Au Ra are from Othard, an Othard may verry well have dragons of it's own and, assuming there are, inevitably some were evil and needed to be killed too.

    Vut with the Au Ra' apperence, it's really no diffrent from the Miqo'te when you think about it. Miqo'te are cat people, but do we acuse them of being Couruel sympathisers? No because it's a beast and a Miqo'te is a person. Litteraly the only exception would be Ishgaurd and we're only one more patch away from kicking in The Gates of Judgment and setting The Archbishop's happy wagon streight any way. So what Ishgaurd thinks about them will probably be irrelevent as I'm not sure the Archbishop or his crusaid either one will survive into the Heaven's ward expantion. After all the winds of change are already stiring in Courthas thanks to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Miqo'te are cat people, but do we acuse them of being Couruel sympathisers?
    This isn't a good counterexample; coeurl may be wild beasts, but dragons certainly are not. Dragons are intelligent, thinking beings, capable of holding grudges and waging wars. Coeurl are just animals. If coeurl were intelligent creatures who had waged war against Eorzea for centuries then it's quite possible that many people would look upon Miqo'te with suspicion.

    As for Yugiri's disguise, since it will make little sense for her to be in disguise to hide her race once Au Ra adventurers are waltzing around without a care in the world as to whether they're seen or not, it's my theory that it will turn out that she's not hiding her face to disguise her race, but rather she's hiding her face because it is hideously scarred, or something along those lines.
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    Speaking of which, I wonder what the plans are for being able to start as an Au Ra. It might be odd going through the 2.2 Main Story Quest where Yugiri can't show her face because she's an Au Ra, if the player is an Au Ra running around in a glamoured subligar.
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    Dragoon quest line.. summery.. The Eye and Nidhogg.

    If Dragoons are meant to fight against dragons then. Au'ra probably fight with them in a manner like the Dragoons in XI. (speculation)

    Whether half demon or dragon. Remember and I'll quote "Despite convincing research by top academics from around the realm and beyond, most Miqo'te scholars refuse to believe that there may be some ancestral connection between their race and cats (fat or not)."

    I wouldn't be surprised if it were the same thing with the Au'ra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    Dragoon quest line.. summery.. The Eye and Nidhogg.

    If Dragoons are meant to fight against dragons then. Au'ra probably fight with them in a manner like the Dragoons in XI. (speculation)

    Whether half demon or dragon. Remember and I'll quote "Despite convincing research by top academics from around the realm and beyond, most Miqo'te scholars refuse to believe that there may be some ancestral connection between their race and cats (fat or not)."

    I wouldn't be surprised if it were the same thing with the Au'ra

    I would be intensely surprised that an expansion that is about dragons would add a dragonish race that was completely unrelated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    This isn't a good counterexample; coeurl may be wild beasts, but dragons certainly are not. Dragons are intelligent, thinking beings, capable of holding grudges and waging wars..

    As for Yugiri's disguise.. it's my theory..
    I really like this idea.. It makes sense and somewhat accounts for the hole in the lore that Tattered brought up.

    Side note: It will be interesting to see how they work around job specific gear in the job quest line for the Au Ra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    As for Yugiri's disguise, since it will make little sense for her to be in disguise to hide her race once Au Ra adventurers are waltzing around without a care in the world as to whether they're seen or not, it's my theory that it will turn out that she's not hiding her face to disguise her race, but rather she's hiding her face because it is hideously scarred, or something along those lines.
    The problem with this though, is Yugiri actually says that she hides her face so that Eorzea's people will not react horribly to her appearance (paraphrased) therefore, the "disfigured" is unlikely; specially given that we can have scars on our characters that would be classed as disfigured IRL. also some of the tattoos can look disfigured if you choose color well.

    And after seeing the slides of Au Ra; it is possible that we can have scales on our faces which would explain why she wears the mask as well as covering her horns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheilin View Post
    The problem with this though....
    Yeah I definitly get where you are coming from.. But doesnt it make even less sense to let a new player starting Au Ra begin as everyone else has, given what tattered has already put forth with regard to the possible hole in the events of the main storyline? Surely there has to be some other reason that Yugiri covers her face aside from being an Au Ra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheilin View Post
    And after seeing the slides of Au Ra; it is possible that we can have scales on our faces which would explain why she wears the mask as well as covering her horns.
    This sidesteps the whole problem. If Yugiri is hiding her face to avoid alarming people due to the scales on her face, what sense does that make if YOU (and dozens of other adventurers walking by while she's talking about hiding her face) ALSO have scales on your faces, because you're all Au Ra just like she is? The goal here is to find a lore-friendly rationale as to why Yugiri would have any need to hide her face if Au Ra are commonplace.

    That's the reason for my disfigurement theory. Naturally, you're right - anyone can have a stylish scar or two. For it to work, Yugiri would need to be BADLY disfigured. I'm talking like Batman's Two-face levels of disfigurement, something that would cause actual horror and possibly pity in anyone that caught a glimpse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    Considering the Dragonsong War has been going on for a bit over 1,000 years, and Shiva didn't exist till after the war began, that's some impressive birth rates...
    Just because Shiva was famous (or infamous) for "lying with a dragon" doesn't mean she's the only one to have done it. She clearly had followers who shared in her desire for peaceful coexistence between humans and dragons (and still does today), and it's quite possible many of them found their own dragon mates. There were probably also cases of human/dragon pairings before Shiva, but none of them prominent socio-political figures as she became.

    There's lots of ways you can realistically pump up the number of Au Ri. They don't all have to be direct descendants of Shiva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Miqo'te are cat people
    Actually that is a community misconception. Miqo'te are humanoids with feline traits, sure, but they are not related to cats. Or at least, lore says they do not consider themselves related to them, so hunting other felines shouldn't be an issue for them. I for one never call my Miqo'te a catman or kitty or anything of the sort, and was actually glad when SE backed up my stance if only a bit with the fat cat minion.

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