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    Personally I don't see a problem with the cash shop. Everyone who is against it has bought something from it, don't lie, you know you have.

    I bought several things with a smile on my face, they're all vanity, but I love them all the same because I like to play around. I like that we can now buy halloween gear outside of Halloween, instead of having to wait for the event to roll back through. That I am very pleased for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIka93 View Post
    Everyone who is against it has bought something from it, don't lie, you know you have.
    Nope, not a single thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIka93 View Post
    Personally I don't see a problem with the cash shop. Everyone who is against it has bought something from it, don't lie, you know you have.

    I bought several things with a smile on my face, they're all vanity, but I love them all the same because I like to play around. I like that we can now buy halloween gear outside of Halloween, instead of having to wait for the event to roll back through. That I am very pleased for.
    If you count buying a fantasia and name change.... (I wouldn't count it). Unlike many persons I wouldn't feel good with myself if my actions would be the opposite to my words. I'm not playing in a P2W game, instead I came to experiment FFXIV: ARR because I swore to myself time ago that I'd never touch that hell again...

    My principles are over my leisure. And that's what I most fear of this all. I love this game, for me it has been "The Perfect Game" this whole year. I have not bought any new game, I didn't even buy a PS4, why? I have a good PC and FFXIV... But I know myself very well, if FFXIV will become P2W, I'll leave, not without trying to make people and devs understand that it is a bad way first, of course, since, I'm not the typical person that abandons what loves so quick and in silence, I rather first try and fight for it, then when it is hopeless, and people supports it so much because I DUNNO then it is when I leave, when there's no solution anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by cearka View Post
    "Can we monitize this?"
    is a question any business should be asking. Its also been stated that cash shop sales go back into game dev and resources, and if their honest about this, then I'm all for it. The cash shop model is more or less here to stay, not just for FFXIV, but games in general. What works for a business model in 1999 no longer works in 2014, and market forces have to evolve to survive, or die. The reality is while sub fees are still more or less the same for mmos for the last 15 years, the resources to make and maintain these games are several times higher. That extra resource needs to come from somewhere.
    Solution, increase the sub. I don't know why developers fear this too much. It is comprehensible the sub should become higher at some point. I wouldn't mind if it would increase one euro per year, seriously. BUT NO CASH SHOP... Sub is something we all pay, we all remain the same to others inside the game. We can't pretend also a sub will remain the same quantity during years and years... It's funny, if they'd raise the sub one euro, I'd pay a total of 12 'extra' euros per year, while with cash shop I would pay 0... Yes, that's how much I love the subscription model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian74 View Post
    If you count buying a fantasia and name change.... (I wouldn't count it). Unlike many persons I wouldn't feel good with myself if my actions would be the opposite to my words. I'm not playing in a P2W game, instead I came to experiment FFXIV: ARR because I swore to myself time ago that I'd never touch that hell again...
    Ok I have to stop you at the P2W thing. This is not a P2W game. What are you going to win with a non-combat minion, an optional mount that has a -slower- walk speed than most other mounts, and also a ghost costume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIka93 View Post
    Ok I have to stop you at the P2W thing. This is not a P2W game. What are you going to win with a non-combat minion, an optional mount that has a -slower- walk speed than most other mounts, and also a ghost costume?
    Adrian is looking into the future as he has that power to see that in 6 months we can buy a fully completed zodiac weapon along BiS gear for all character classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIka93 View Post
    Ok I have to stop you at the P2W thing. This is not a P2W game. What are you going to win with a non-combat minion, an optional mount that has a -slower- walk speed than most other mounts, and also a ghost costume?
    Hi, I think someone should read carefully this thread. (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...45-Feedback%29)

    Thanks for your interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian74 View Post
    Hi, I think someone should read carefully this thread. (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...45-Feedback%29)

    Thanks for your interest.

    lol you crack me up. The biggest doom thread out there.

    Nothing that is being sold in the cash shop is game breaking. Sure the wedding ring thing was a small oversight that shouldn't have happened but it was NOT game breaking....at all...ever.....period.

    The amount of hyperbole in your thread is quite hilarious.
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