Cash Shop: Stifling development.

[Tupsi]

That 'know' would have been helpful. I'm not picking on his grammar, I was literally unable to understand the statement because a critical verb was missing.

If I were being a grammar Nazi I would have pointed out that you did not capitalise Nazi.

I think the point he was making is native or not it was fairly obvious what they were trying to state.

[Kuolema]

That 'know' would have been helpful. I'm not picking on his grammar, I was literally unable to understand the statement because a critical verb was missing.

If I were being a grammar Nazi I would have pointed out that you did not capitalise Nazi.

It really didn't take that much effort to understand what he meant...

[Alberel]

At this point I'm just wondering how much of the Golden Saucer's features will be paid for through the cash shop. Bets that we'll have to pay through the nose for Triple Triad booster packs?

[Aegis]

I think the point he was making is native or not it was fairly obvious what they were trying to state.

It really didn't take that much effort to understand what he meant...

Like I said, I literally couldn't parse it. My wife is a non-native English speaker, so I'm familiar enough with piecing together the occasional jumbled sentence, but it just wasn't making sense.

[CHEVY44]

As a consumer cash shops are a little tricky. Say SE just came out with the standard package you get 3 goodies with that free. I bet ppl would start asking to customize their wedding or giving gifts to those who attend or a special mount for the wedding. Is it simply we as consumers did not get the option to voice our opinion on what we should or should not pay for I'm not sure but I can promise you threads would pop up about extra wedding stuffs ie vial of fantasia. The only other MMO I have played was FFXI and a wedding cost 1 million Gil or more. Gil is not easy to come by for all people so that could have been a deal breaker also. SE knows if ppl are using the cash shop and how much they are making on each item if something isn't making money they will remove those items or atleast won't make variations of those items ie WoW mentioned in earlier post.

P.S. What P2P MMOs offer a free wedding with sub no additional in game transactions? Just curious.

[SgtPepperUK]

Time and time again on a range of forums I see people starting new topics when there are existing threads.

My theory is some people think their comment won't get the attention they think it deserves if they post in an existing thread.

[Bishop81]

Someone linked this article to the forums a few days ago.
http://www.develop-online.net/news/f...s-wada/0105940

It pretty much says they think of or did all the way back in 2009 think of FFXIV as a microtransactional model. They wanted to do the same for FFXI but it appears the audience of the time would not stand of for it so they didn't. Here's a quote from that article and a link for the full read.

Wada went on to outline the subscription and microtransaction models that FFXIV will employ, adding the company is looking to improve on the Final Fantasy XI system.

And so Wada's damaging legacy lives on.

[Roris]

P.S. What P2P MMOs offer a free wedding with sub no additional in game transactions? Just curious.

FFXI, they were even hosted by GMs for a long while. Funny how it's also another SE MMO. If anything this shows that the current decision to monetize the game is directorial rather than coming from higher ups, seeing how XI's subs are way lower yet it's still P2P without a cash shop (no, those items someone's going to mention don't count, I know who you are.)

Oh my bad, I didn't read the in game part, I guess no other MMO does it truly for free, but at least XI doesn't involve paid transactions.

[Sapphic]

I think the FF14 forum community is a being a little over dramatic about the situation tbh.

Aren't they always? ^_^

[Tupsi]

FFXI, they were even hosted by GMs for a long while. Funny how it's also another SE MMO. If anything this shows that the current decision to monetize the game is directorial rather than coming from higher ups, seeing how XI's subs are way lower yet it's still P2P without a cash shop (no, those items someone's going to mention don't count, I know who you are.)

They do count and actually offers you an advantage if you didn't buy a collection version of XI. (Boosted everything below level 30.) You also forgot to mention that the "free" version in XI costs a fair bit of gil if you choose to get the outfits and items and are now done by an NPC in game.

Everything comes from a higher up, just like it was a higher up's decision to switch XI's weddings (that people were no longer doing, by the way) to an NPC style rather than waste time and money on actual GMs doing it.