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  1. #611
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    Vik Vicious
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    Try opening with PB instead of Shoulder Tackle. Also, try PB > Snap > IR > Snap > BfB > Demo > Howling > DK > Steel > Twin (End PB) > ToD > etc.

    EDIT: Nvm, Ossom has it covered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap.

    The key to this is the Internal Release, the quicker you start using it the better. By using it there, you are allowing yourself to use Internal Release on every 3rd Demolish (One of your most powerful skills. I believe it also lines up with every other ToD but I'm not exactly sure yet, your other, most powerful skill).
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 12-20-2014 at 12:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    You should be able to break 500 with the Relic weapon at ilv114.

    I'll explain my opening rotation, and why I do it the way I do.

    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap.

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    This actually got me thinking I'm doing something wrong, I only managed to break 500 dps after obtaining regular Iron Works Weapon and on the same day Dreadwyrm hands which made me stand at i117, before that I was doing 478ish average but I always felt I should had been doing higher at 114, I felt at times my DPS was pretty inconsistent, my opener was the following:

    Shoulder Tackle> ToD > PB >Demo > Snap > Snap > Internal > Twin Snakes > Blood 4 Blood > DK.

    Seeing as this is absolutely wrong on my part, can I ask what's your regular rotation? weaving no c/d skills is part of my rotation, and at what moment is the most eficient to use STR pot?
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    Last edited by Evtrai; 12-20-2014 at 01:32 AM.

  3. #613
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    This actually got me thinking I'm doing something wrong, I only managed to break 500 dps after obtaining regular Iron Works Weapon and on the same day Dreadwyrm hands which made me stand at i117, before that I was doing 478ish average but I always felt I should had been doing higher at 114, I felt at times my DPS was pretty inconsistent, my opener was the following:

    Shoulder Tackle> ToD > PB >Demo > Snap > Snap > Internal > Twin Snakes > Blood 4 Blood > DK.

    Seeing as this is absolutely wrong on my part, can I ask what's your regular rotation also?
    At i114 with an i115 weapon (no outside buffs) you should be able break 500 unless you just get really poor crit RNG on the run. With an i135 weapon you should be much higher.
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  4. #614
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    At i114 with an i115 weapon (no outside buffs) you should be able break 500 unless you just get really poor crit RNG on the run. With an i135 weapon you should be much higher.
    I edited my post that now I'm currently 117, and totally felt wrong my dps just now hitting 500 until this moment, any advice would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    I edited my post that now I'm currently 117, and totally felt wrong my dps just now hitting 500 until this moment, any advice would be great.
    Are you ever holding cooldowns and off GCDs outside of for a specific mechanic? Also are you playing with a controller or keyboard/mouse?
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  6. #616
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Are you ever holding cooldowns and off GCDs outside of for a specific mechanic? Also are you playing with a controller or keyboard/mouse?
    I use a KB/Mouse setup, I'm not usually holding GCD off for any mechanic, unless I see either Internal Release and B4B have 3-4 seconds on c/d before using howling fist and steel peak
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  7. #617
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    I use a KB/Mouse setup, I'm not usually holding GCD off for any mechanic, unless I see either Internal Release and B4B have 3-4 seconds on c/d before using howling fist and steel peak
    Well I was hoping you'd say controller so that autoattack would be the most likely cause, but with keyboard/mouse that's less likely. Is autoattack making up ~30% of your total damage?
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  8. #618
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Well I was hoping you'd say controller so that autoattack would be the most likely cause, but with keyboard/mouse that's less likely. Is autoattack making up ~30% of your total damage?
    seems I'm doing the 28% of damage in auto attacks, what makes the diference on the controller, I'm willing to make the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    seems I'm doing the 28% of damage in auto attacks, what makes the diference on the controller, I'm willing to make the change.
    No, I meant autoattack would more likely be an issue with a controller. It's easy to miss autoattacks with a controller if you aren't using lockon or have adjusted controller settings to compensate for all the turning. Pretty common issue. I use keyboard/mouse myself so missing autoattacks doesn't really happen unless I'm leaving the boss. 28% is close, but seems just a little low. It's possible you are turning your camera just a touch too far when moving, but that wouldn't account for how low your total DPS is with an i135 weapon. It would seem something else is going wrong.
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  10. #620
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    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
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