Stoneskin II

[Tristamwolf]

I'm loving the convenience of Stoneskin II so far, and do what I can to let people know I can buff them all at once with it. Also, had a small glitch one time where the tank pulled a fight before Stoneskin II finished casting, but neither me nor my "target" were considered in battle because we hadn't attacked or interacted with someone who had attacked, so my Stoneskin II went off about .5 to 1 second in to the fight. I might attempt to recreate this for the purpose of bug report, but it would be rather unreliable for regular use I feel. Still, something interesting.

[firstsin]

Why is the spell not an instant cast?

[VanilleFang]

Why is the spell not an instant cast?

It was a quality of life change... Why is that everyone seems to come up with something about this to complain about? I literally saw two people complaining in game because they thought it was stupid that it's a lv. 50 spell. Really?

While we're at it make Protect instant too. And Raise.

[mdha02]

Why is the spell not an instant cast?

It is! Make a macro:

/macroicon "Stoneskin II"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "Stoneskin II" <me>

It's insta-cast!

[firstsin]

It was a quality of life change... Why is that everyone seems to come up with something about this to complain about? I literally saw two people complaining in game because they thought it was stupid that it's a lv. 50 spell. Really?

While we're at it make Protect instant too. And Raise.

It is! Make a macro:

/macroicon "Stoneskin II"
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "Stoneskin II" <me>

It's insta-cast!

My reason for asking why it is not instant cast is simply cos the reason why the spell was added was to let WHM SS the entire party before a raid. So making the spell instant cast IMO should have been idea.

[mdha02]

If you use Swiftcast at the beginning of whatever you are doing, it will be ready by the time you need it. Even without Swiftcast it is still faster than using Stoneskin on the entire party. Let's just remember to be happy they listened to us.

[Sebazy]

The cast time makes sense once you consider how spamable it'd be in 4 man dungeons between pulls.

A slightly quicker cast would have been nice but all told I'm happy with it.

[Arkenne]

had a small glitch one time where the tank pulled a fight before Stoneskin II finished casting, but neither me nor my "target" were considered in battle because we hadn't attacked or interacted with someone who had attacked, so my Stoneskin II went off about .5 to 1 second in to the fight.

I don't have a WHM, or a healer at that, but if «Stoneskin II» has the condition of "only if not in battle" then just as «Hide» from the Rogues you'll be able to cast it at any point in the fight so long you aren't fighting a boss and your enemy list is clear (haven't throw any heal, attacked any enemy or got targetted by any enemy yourself).

If it worked on a boss fight thats just the spell clipping in which spells cast so long 90% of the casting bar has been completed. Not much utility I can see there, besides from recasting stoneskin on the Tank for an aditional shield refresh. Then again, I am no healer, so I can't tell.

[Artiste]

I'm ok with how it is now, I just put it at begining of dongeon, and before the bosses, everytime with swiftcast (not using this a lot anyway)

I dont need to cast it beetwin pull of monsters, the dps rarelly lose thier stoneskin, and if they do, whatever, that's not a big deal.

[firstsin]

The cast time for SS2 is quite long. And most tanks cannot stop running longer then 1.5 seconds between pulls.