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  1. #51
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    Giralus's Avatar
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    Giralus De'gallus
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    1) add in ability to block tells/ friend request from anyone not on friends list, free company or linkshells.

    2) ability to block tells / friend requests in for every 10 levels .. example = block tells/friend requests from players that are level 1-10 . Block tells /friend request from people People lvl11- lvl20 , lvl21 - 30, etc

    THIS WOULD CUT DOWN 100% OF THE RMT SPAM INSTANTLY .

    No reason why shouldn't have in game tools to choose who can and can't send us tells and friend invites.

    Over the weekend on Famfrit I had at least 10 friend invites followed by RMT SPAM from the same person. Been on 2 hours today and already had 5 RMT SPAM tells.

    So many easy things they could Add into the game to Give us multiple ways to never get spam. But all we have is ignore and blacklist. Blacklist is for people you on your server you want to place there for specific reasons. It's not suppose to be filled with 200 RMT spammers
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  2. #52
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    Eldon Pierce
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    Filters? Hahaha. The only "filter" is a block on identical tells, which doesn't kick in if 3 characters of the tell are different. RMT figured that out DAY ONE, which is why you get a random 3 characters at the end of all the tells. The fact that they can't, or won't, make a workable filter that actually hinders RMT tells IN THE SLIGHTEST speaks volumes. You'd think, at a minimum, they could catch players sending 100s or 1000s of "similar" tells in the course of an hour, and ban them. But no, I only see 1-2 (Deleted) in my blist when I check every couple weeks, whereas I guarantee you I've blisted way more than that in the same time frame.
    I always wondered why MMOs don't implement Naive Bayes spam filtering like email services.

    Then again, this is SE, we don't even have a convenient report spam feature ... >.>
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    The fact that they can't, or won't, make a workable filter that actually hinders RMT tells IN THE SLIGHTEST speaks volumes.
    Like in follow the money, or in higher priorities?
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  4. #54
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    Filters? Hahaha. The only "filter" is a block on identical tells, which doesn't kick in if 3 characters of the tell are different. RMT figured that out DAY ONE, which is why you get a random 3 characters at the end of all the tells. The fact that they can't, or won't, make a workable filter that actually hinders RMT tells IN THE SLIGHTEST speaks volumes. You'd think, at a minimum, they could catch players sending 100s or 1000s of "similar" tells in the course of an hour, and ban them. But no, I only see 1-2 (Deleted) in my blist when I check every couple weeks, whereas I guarantee you I've blisted way more than that in the same time frame.
    When SE bans an account, they do not delete the character. Anyone that you see on your list who is (Deleted) is someone that SE FAILED to ban before the RMT managed to delete that character themselves. Every RMT on your B-list, except for possibly the most recent entries, has been banned - remove them from your list, and you won't hear a peep out of them.

    As for catching people sending multiple tells, I think you're HUGELY underestimating how pervasive RMT is. They don't have a few characters sending hundreds of tells per day. They have hundreds of characters sending a few tells per day. It is very difficult to make any kind of automated system that will be able to seperate RMT from regular players (is this guy spamming shout an RMT? Or is he advertising a Free Company?), so putting banning ability in the hands of an automated system is very dangerous.

    It's not a simple problem with a simple solution. Pretty much any proposal I've seen has a cost. Don't allow people under level 15 to send /tells? Not only does this alienate new players, but it's hardly even a speed bump for RMT given how little time it takes to level to 15. Auto-ban anyone who gets blacklisted by enough people in a short space of time? Opens the door wide for Free Companies and Linkshells to victimize someone they don't like. Auto-ban anyone who spams the same /shout over and over? Legit players who advertise go up in flames while RMT carefully rotate their programmed messages to avoid the same fate. Hire enough people to monitor chats across all servers and ban folks the moment RMT becomes obvious? If you think we're paying a lot for our subscription now, just wait until we start footing the salaries for the hundreds of new salaries we'd need to pay for...
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  5. #55
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    Saseal Korei
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    Getting at least 4-5 a day on Couerl. :\ Before hand was maybe 1-2 a day, for a while.
    I've started to automatically feel annoyed when ever I hear the PM sound.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Hire enough people to monitor chats across all servers and ban folks the moment RMT becomes obvious? If you think we're paying a lot for our subscription now, just wait until we start footing the salaries for the hundreds of new salaries we'd need to pay for...
    I think there might be quite a few unemployed volunteers willing to do that in return for a free sub.
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  7. #57
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    OlyverW's Avatar
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    Oly'ver White
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Getting at least 4-5 a day on Couerl. :\ Before hand was maybe 1-2 a day, for a while.
    I've started to automatically feel annoyed when ever I hear the PM sound.
    Especially when you are in a cutscene , market board , or any other game interface I got about 30 last week
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  8. #58
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    Rumina Asou
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    /blist <r>. it doesnt stop the problem, but its faster blisting.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    /blist <r>. it doesnt stop the problem, but its faster blisting.
    Not a permanent solution either.

    Works until your Blacklist is full ...
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  10. #60
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Not a permanent solution either.

    Works until your Blacklist is full ...
    time to be forever /busy . or move to a server that doesnt buy gil. it is pretty bad.
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