Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[LordMaitreya]

Just got Longinus on my DRG, the weapon looks very disappointing. . . It looks more like a BLM staff rather than a spear =(

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I think it looks amazing. Especially after the travesties that Novus and Nexus were. Its a trident in a demonic-ish style. It along with the other weapons could be a foreshadowing to Heavensward's dark more mature theme Yoshi-P has mentioned.

[ColdestHeaven]

The only thing I really don't like about Longinus is that glow. I mean, it looks like a broken Christmas light. Not even in the creepy way.

[Dunncan]

Usefull info and Math

I see. In a pure stats weight calculation, I can see a DPS gain. But, specially on t12, I see the following situation:

On first phase, for 3 or 4 hits, I end up beeing in front of Phoenix, due to evade the whitefire AoE. On third Phase, sometimes I end up hitting bennus from front. None of these situations should happen, and when do, it's rare. But in this situations, I can benefit from a slightly accuracy.

For the SS, and this is what concerns me more, with my current 370 SS, I'm not having any TP issues, and our Bard doesn't play Paeon. I do understand that I could land more autoatacks and fit more GCD during bursts with SS, but till wich point it'll worth, if it can possibly make me starve for TP, or bring our bard DPS down in order to play Paeon?

I know it's a tricky question and every DRG handle it in different ways. But I would like to know more opinions about wich would be the "ideal" SS value, or anything close to it.

[CesarLongsword]

I see. In a pure stats weight calculation, I can see a DPS gain. But, specially on t12, I see the following situation:

On first phase, for 3 or 4 hits, I end up beeing in front of Phoenix, due to evade the whitefire AoE. On third Phase, sometimes I end up hitting bennus from front. None of these situations should happen, and when do, it's rare. But in this situations, I can benefit from a slightly accuracy.

For the SS, and this is what concerns me more, with my current 370 SS, I'm not having any TP issues, and our Bard doesn't play Paeon. I do understand that I could land more autoatacks and fit more GCD during bursts with SS, but till wich point it'll worth, if it can possibly make me starve for TP, or bring our bard DPS down in order to play Paeon?

I know it's a tricky question and every DRG handle it in different ways. But I would like to know more opinions about wich would be the "ideal" SS value, or anything close to it.

I have played around with high and low SS, there are benefits and downsides to either side. ultimately it is up to you and how you prefer your rotation to play out. ive ended up going with minimizing SS as much as possible, lets my bard lay off TP song at times and it has helped me line up the way im using the new recast times on offGCDs, but again i would try a few runs with both and see which one fits you better.

For acc, i usually try to get frontal cap, there is always the occasion where you will hit from the front especially with adds, no reason to break your combos and rotation because you devoted those 10 or so stat points else where.

[rickyguo]

I see. In a pure stats weight calculation, I can see a DPS gain. But, specially on t12, I see the following situation:

On first phase, for 3 or 4 hits, I end up beeing in front of Phoenix, due to evade the whitefire AoE. On third Phase, sometimes I end up hitting bennus from front. None of these situations should happen, and when do, it's rare. But in this situations, I can benefit from a slightly accuracy.
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you can have the person with white fire give you more room as they only have to hit one blackfire now. Alternatively if another melee gets whitefire, I just eat the aoe.

[Dunncan]

(...) ive ended up going with minimizing SS as much as possible, lets my bard lay off TP song at times and it has helped me line up the way im using the new recast times on offGCDs(...)

In my experience, i have ended up in the same aproach. Just looking for some other points of view.

you can have the person with white fire give you more room as they only have to hit one blackfire now. Alternatively if another melee gets whitefire, I just eat the aoe.

Yes, depending who gets the whitefire, I can do some dance arround the boss but, sometimes, I just go front for safety. But that's not a big problem, it's more a situation that ends up happening once in a while in every turn.

Thanks for the advices

[Cidolfas86]

Math check: so according to the stat weights the Snakeliege spear is better than a Liberator by like a few decimals? Trying to see if its worth it for PvP.

[Sessurea]

Hey guys, I'm interested if anyone can give me some help. I would like to buy some 110 crafted pieces and meld them, as long as they beat the 120 ironworks pieces. Dragoon isn't my main so it wont be seeing any fcob loot, or any ironworks augmentations.

So which melded 110 pieces beat the 120 iron works pieces? Appart from the super obviously amazing ironworks pants and shoes.

Thanks.

PS: ON AN AMAZING SIDENOTE. WE GET THE LANCE OF LONGINUS!!!!! ( neon genesis evangelion reference ftw <3 )

[Ricdeau]

Math check: so according to the stat weights the Snakeliege spear is better than a Liberator by like a few decimals? Trying to see if its worth it for PvP.

Worth it to grind PvP for a weapon that's already behind the PvE curve? Not really, and if you were going to grind out a weapon the relic would get you far more mileage since it can be upgraded to i125 now. I mean if you can already buy it I guess it's got some use, but the weapon damage increase from either getting your relic to i115 or upgrading the Shiva weapon would be a wiser use of your time.

[Sprilly20]

Just got Longinus on my DRG, the weapon looks very disappointing. . . It looks more like a BLM staff rather than a spear =(

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thanks for posting a pic of it, i hadn't seen it yet. i think it looks pretty epic, especially matched to the right outfit (bc fashion matters as much as anything in this game amirite? ;D