Real Money to Get In-Game Currency: Eternal Bond Edition

[Teryaani]

Let me explain it to you in the most easy way I can considering you still didn't catch on.

1) Buy item from cash shop
2) Sell item for gil (if dye, trade item to person. They dye it and trade it back for gil)
3) Now that you have lots of gil without earning it its time to spend it on something.
4) I'm stuck on turn 5. I'll buy a run. Hmm I could also buy all the runs in second coils too. I'll buy some more items to convert to gil. Oh Shiva now drops better weapons I can just buy a run for that too. Why not I have lots of gil converted from items from the cash shop.

I can explain that that the eternal bond bracelet trading is an unintended consequence of how they designed the eternal bond system. One that is going to be fixed. As long as square fixes what they have said is broken, I'm going to say that they still are keeping that promise.

Regarding the dyeing, players can earn way more money with other crafting than they can with those dyes and it costs them $0. All above board and legal. I haven't seen any calls for it on Siren, and I'm betting it's not the profit center you think it is (again, there are way more lucrative and efficient ways to earn the gil needed to buy a run). I'll grant you that it's possible to earn gil using real money. it's just a tremendously inefficient way to do it.

Edit: Actually, I'd love to see them bundle the dye selling with the bracelet selling as a reportable offense. That would be the fastest way to close that loophole.

[Venos]

I care when they end up on my runs or get picked up as replacements for statics without having the base skills from learning the content.

So I get it now.. all bad players are casuals, gil buyers and take part in "ptw".

*slow claps*

[ShinigamiZero]

Not everyone has crafting leveled to the point of it being very profitable. If you want to make the most out of crafting you need to invest into the best gear and meld it. Dyes are not as much because it's like one dollar for one. Needless to say I have seen people selling one for at least 500k. That makes the exchange 1 dollar = 500k. spend 5 dollars and do the math. You can't deny the wedding bands aren't selling for over 5 million+ each.

[ShinigamiZero]

Regarding the dyeing, players can earn way more money with other crafting than they can with those dyes and it costs them $0. All above board and legal. I haven't seen any calls for it on Siren, and I'm betting it's not the profit center you think it is (again, there are way more lucrative and efficient ways to earn the gil needed to buy a run). I'll grant you that it's possible to earn gil using real money. it's just a tremendously inefficient way to do it.

Edit: Actually, I'd love to see them bundle the dye selling with the bracelet selling as a reportable offense. That would be the fastest way to close that loophole.

They should have made it untradeable and made the dye bound to the person who dyed it to fix that problem I think. It would definitely fix that loophole.

[Teryaani]

Not everyone has crafting leveled to the point of it being very profitable. If you want to make the most out of crafting you need to invest into the best gear and meld it. Dyes are not as much because it's like one dollar for one. Needless to say I have seen people selling one for at least 500k. That makes the exchange 1 dollar = 500k. spend 5 dollars and do the math. You can't deny the wedding bands aren't selling for over 5 million+ each.

SE acknowledged it was broken. Their first response ("just say no m'kay") won't fly and they know it. I'm giving them a chance to correct their crappy design before lighting the torches. If they take too long, I'll join you with a pitchfork.

They should have made it untradeable and made the dye bound to the person who dyed it to fix that problem I think. It would definitely fix that loophole.

I love that idea.

[ShinigamiZero]

May I ask how you feel about SE potentially selling cards for triple triad or tokens for Gold Saucer Teryaani?

[Teryaani]

May I ask how you feel about SE potentially selling cards for triple triad or tokens for Gold Saucer Teryaani?

I'd rather that they didn't. While it's within the scope of the ToS, it seems a bit much. If they did, they would be pushing the scope of the cash shop past where I was comfortable with.

[Yukiko]

I care when they end up on my runs or get picked up as replacements for statics without having the base skills from learning the content.

I just dont get it:

First you say something about "to get Coil equip".
My conclusion is you think Coil is some sort of status symbol...

Next you say they end up in YOUR group.
My conclusion is you are not honest to us and your true reason to dislike that is another, you dont tell us.
Quite simple, because i doubt you are doing Coil with dungeonfinder, maybe Turn 6-9 with groupfinder, but i guess you are not doing final coil with "those who will end up in your group"

[ShinigamiZero]

I just dont get it:

First you say something about "to get Coil equip".
My conclusion is you think Coil is some sort of status symbol...

Next you say they end up in YOUR group.
My conclusion is you are not honest to us and your true reason to dislike that is another, you dont tell us.
Quite simple, because i doubt you are doing Coil with dungeonfinder, maybe Turn 6-9 with groupfinder, but i guess you are not doing final coil with "those who will end up in your group"

I already explained it, its not a hard concept to grasp. I brought up coils because you can buy wins with gil attained from selling cash shop items. With me so far? People that buy runs with gil can end up in your runs without having the skills needed that you'd learn before. Still with me? Some people, yes I know its hard to notice? Don't have all the time in the world and can only do endgame raiding through DF. It would cut down with people being in raids that shouldn't be there. Anything else is just your pathetic attempt to antagonize me because you can't come up with a proper response to the topic at hand; so I won't even justify it with a response. I love this game and I don't want to see SE take the route they are taking.

[LunaHoshino]

You can't deny the wedding bands aren't selling for over 5 million+ each.

Actually, I can-- on my server people are having trouble selling them for just 2 million. I watched someone put one up and then lower the price repeatedly over the course of a few hours because no one was buying.